Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

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SecondWar on 24 June 2023

drkohler said:

If this lasts longer than a few days, I wonder what the Chechens will do..

Good point. I’ve suspect that Kadyrov only swears fealty to Putin on the basis that is allows him to retain power in Cechnya as he would ordinarily stand no chance against Russian forces but if things really splinter he could be prepared to breakaway - certainly if Prigozhin succeeds.

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Ryuu96 on 24 June 2023

SecondWar said:

drkohler said:

If this lasts longer than a few days, I wonder what the Chechens will do..

Good point. I’ve suspect that Kadyrov only swears fealty to Putin on the basis that is allows him to retain power in Cechnya as he would ordinarily stand no chance against Russian forces but if things really splinter he could be prepared to breakaway - certainly if Prigozhin succeeds.

Kadyrov HATES Prigozhin so I think he'll take this opportunity to fight him, for now.

*With whatever army he has left.

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Ryuu96 on 24 June 2023

NyanNyanNekoChan said:

President Vladimir Putin calls Wagner coup ‘treason’
“This is a stab in the back to everyone in Russia” Putin said #WagnerGroup #Russia #Prigozhin #Wagner pic.twitter.com/gTreGbAzYc
— News Live SA (@newslivesa) June 24, 2023

So we officially in a civil war? Lol.

Kyiv in 3 days to "OH SHIT WE'RE IN A CIVIL WAR"

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Ryuu96 on 24 June 2023

NEW: #Wagner Group financier Yevgeny #Prigozhin appears to have launched an armed rebellion on June 23 to force a leadership change within the #Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) which is unlikely to succeed.🧵 (1/13)https://t.co/qllyOvtpBR pic.twitter.com/XXCaTeTCD5
— ISW (@TheStudyofWar) June 24, 2023

Prigozhin says that fighting has taken place with Russian forces when the leadership has given false information. He adds that 60-70 soldiers have joined Wagner and that most "wave their hands cheerfully" when they meet. https://t.co/Bzw0g5fTFw pic.twitter.com/HrkzTmOeXJ
— Faytuks News Δ (@Faytuks) June 24, 2023

Heavy smoke is visible rising over the northern Wagner push along the M4 highway in Pavlovsk, Voronezh Oblast. pic.twitter.com/K0Y8Ql1zd3
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) June 24, 2023

MoD attack helicopters reportedly struck at least two Wagner vehicles in Voronezh Oblast pic.twitter.com/7LKGeDF6du
— Giorgi Revishvili (@revishvilig) June 24, 2023

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Prigozhin threatens the commander 😮 in Rostov with General Sergey Kuzovlev, commander of the Southern Military District. pic.twitter.com/JvCQWeupHO
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Ryuu96 on 24 June 2023

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Ryuu96 on 24 June 2023

3/ A huge swath of land has been lost. 3-4 times more soldiers have been killed than reported up to the pipeline. And what has been reported is 10x less. Sanitary losses are around 1000 on some days these are KIAs, WIAs, missing persons and those "otkazniki" who refused to fight
— Giorgi Revishvili (@revishvilig) June 24, 2023

Wagners shot down another Russian regime chopper in Voronezh oblast, somewhere in the Pavliv district.

Source: https://t.co/auZIeiIqZR #Russia #Voronezh #Coup pic.twitter.com/099k6fhiTJ
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>caterer serves me nice banana
>ask him if his new paramilitary is private contractor or coup
>he laughs and says ‘its essential to the special military operation sir’
>its coup pic.twitter.com/ak4o8TOoej
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Ryuu96 on 24 June 2023

Putin: The battle for the fate of our people against the West needs unity ... Thus, actions dividing our actions are a betrayal of our brothers-in-arms ... a strike to the back of our people ... like in 1917 ... when our country was divided ... We will not let this happen ... it's an internal BETRAYAL.

"They're pushing us to a defeat and capitulation ... a strike against Russia, our people .. our actions will be BRUTAL ... everyone who consciously went on this path will take an immediate punishment ... all departments have been instructed ... additional anti-terrorist measures being introduced in regions and Moscow ... operation of civil and military departments in Rostov are challenging.

As a citizen, I will do EVERYTHING to protect the Constitution and the people.

Those who started the mutiny BETRAYED RUSSIA AND WILL BE RESPONSIBLE

The only right choice is to lay down weapons."

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Ryuu96 on 24 June 2023

Girkin: Chechnya, Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk pic.twitter.com/8QqOfjvS3B
— MAKS 23 👀🇺🇦 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) June 24, 2023

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Ryuu96 on 24 June 2023

Imagine a KGB thug with them, that’s Putin. Crooks don’t want to die or spend short, desperate lives in a bunker. They want to enjoy the fruits of their looting and power. Using a nuclear weapon is the surest way to guarantee that will never happen. https://t.co/t2tqIqwXMy
— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) June 24, 2023

Yup Yup.

I've just as much fear about Prigozhin using them as I do Putin.

That is, zero.

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crissindahouse on 24 June 2023

If Prighozin wouldn't be such an asshole and Wagner so disgusting I would hope to see him win but in this case I want him to do as much damage as possible to the Russian military and still lose. Ukraine just needs their country back and Russia needs to be even less relevant economical (especially for China). But this guy would probably even like to throw some nukes on Ukraine just to show strenght.

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