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Ryuu96 on 23 June 2023

Oh no don, Kadyrov has issues now don. What is he going to do don.

(I doubt this very much but the shit-posting is funny).



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Ryuu96 on 23 June 2023

Killing civilians. Really important right now huh Russia. Not like you have something else to deal with, got to keep killing those civilians no matter what!

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PDF on 23 June 2023
Ryuu96 said:
PDF said:

Won't happen but if I was him I would offer to fight for Ukraine in exchange for pardons for him and all his men. He may not be able to convince his men of that but his other options seem dire.

Might annoy America a little, Prigozhin is wanted by the FBI, Lol.

Not sure we'll see Ukraine working directly with him like that, not unless they have a secret plan to put a bullet in him by the end of it or backstab him and hand him over to America. He is also responsible for thousands of Ukrainian deaths so it may not go down well with the Ukrainian public.

Wagner is up to a lot of chaos in Africa and it's where they make a lot of their money, Prigozhin could just flee there but him being in Africa is riskier than Russia, who knows, America could work out a deal in secret with whatever African country he resided in to capture him, Lol.

I wouldn't put it past the US to turn a blind eye. It's not like we haven't secretly or unofficially worked with terrible people before in pursuit of a bigger goal. Though publicly it may hurt support of the war.

You're right about not going well with the Ukrainian public but Zelensky has incredible political capital with his people at the moment. The spin of the enemy of my enemy could work.

Still, this isn't going to happen. Priogozhin has no reason to trust Ukraine or the West. And as you said the political fallout from a potential alliance could be too great. There is also little reason Ukraine to make such a deal, it's just as good for them for Wagner and Russian military to kill each other. 



 

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Ryuu96 on 23 June 2023
PDF said:
Ryuu96 said:

Might annoy America a little, Prigozhin is wanted by the FBI, Lol.

Not sure we'll see Ukraine working directly with him like that, not unless they have a secret plan to put a bullet in him by the end of it or backstab him and hand him over to America. He is also responsible for thousands of Ukrainian deaths so it may not go down well with the Ukrainian public.

Wagner is up to a lot of chaos in Africa and it's where they make a lot of their money, Prigozhin could just flee there but him being in Africa is riskier than Russia, who knows, America could work out a deal in secret with whatever African country he resided in to capture him, Lol.

I wouldn't put it past the US to turn a blind eye. It's not like we haven't secretly or unofficially worked with terrible people before in pursuit of a bigger goal. Though publicly it may hurt support of the war.

You're right about not going well with the Ukrainian public but Zelensky has incredible political capital with his people at the moment. The spin of the enemy of my enemy could work.

Still, this isn't going to happen. Priogozhin has no reason to trust Ukraine or the West. And as you said the political fallout from a potential alliance could be too great. There is also little reason Ukraine to make such a deal, it's just as good for them for Wagner and Russian military to kill each other. 

Lol. Very true about USA working with shitty people.

Yeah, I agree that publicly it could hurt support, especially since Wagner is a well known brutal mercenary company which even attacked US Soldiers once before (although, no US soldiers were killed and they fucking demolished the Wagner forces that attacked them). There's also the issue of Wagner's 2nd in command having the Nazi tattoos and shit, Lol.

Yeah, Zelensky might be able to spin it, a bit risky.

Prigozhin even now is talking about destroying Ukraine though, Lol. Dunno, like you said, them killing each other works out just as good. Think of it like Ukraine could reach out to Prigozhin/Wagner for an alliance who will then be attacking Russia but they're already (supposedly) attacking Russia right now so there's little need for an official alliance, let them destroy each other while Ukraine continues to focus on its planned counter-offensive.

Maybe we'll see the Russian volunteer group who are aiding Ukraine splitting off from Ukraine to go help Wagner...

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Ryuu96 on 23 June 2023

Russia: Should we blow these dudes up all bunched together?

Nah, lets bomb another civilian apartment.



Ryuu96 on 23 June 2023

Wonder what China is thinking about this absolute shit-show right now.



Ryuu96 on 23 June 2023

Fuck are Riot Police going to do?

Big test will be what the actual Russian army does...