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As expected, debris falling on it is the most likely scenario, that or a malfunction.



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Methinks the Kinzhal's maybe aren't all they're cracked up to be. 🤔😂



Patriot hunting again?

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 16 May 2023

So like I said, debris or malfunction, debris is the most likely scenario.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 16 May 2023



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Bakhmut is pretty much lost now. Russia advanced in the city and there's not really much left while Ukraine advanced around the city. Would be nice to encircle it but I think if Ukraine would advance too much Russians would leave early enough. Would be nice to have the situation in which Ukraine was in Mariupol last year to take some thousand soldiers hostage but those Wagner/Russian soldiers in Bakhmut have too many options not to get in such a situation.



And the 200k Russian casualties bar has been reportedly breached. Slava Ukraini

crissindahouse said:

Bakhmut is pretty much lost now. Russia advanced in the city and there's not really much left while Ukraine advanced around the city. Would be nice to encircle it but I think if Ukraine would advance too much Russians would leave early enough. Would be nice to have the situation in which Ukraine was in Mariupol last year to take some thousand soldiers hostage but those Wagner/Russian soldiers in Bakhmut have too many options not to get in such a situation.

Yeah, I don't know how much Ukraine is truly trying to push back there, They might just be fixing Russian troops in place. Kind of what they did last year with early Kherson pushback to then reveal the real front was Kharkiv.



crissindahouse said:

Bakhmut is pretty much lost now. Russia advanced in the city and there's not really much left while Ukraine advanced around the city. Would be nice to encircle it but I think if Ukraine would advance too much Russians would leave early enough. Would be nice to have the situation in which Ukraine was in Mariupol last year to take some thousand soldiers hostage but those Wagner/Russian soldiers in Bakhmut have too many options not to get in such a situation.

Lost in the sense that the city is basically rubble now, yeah.

If Ukraine does encircle the city though and forces Russia out of it, that would be a massive win, it would mean that Russia spent almost a year, wasted tens of thousands of lives, for a city which they never even managed to fully take, that'd be a serious morale blow.

And despite Wagner having like "90%" of the city or w/e, they still don't control it and still it's being heavily contested, they can't consolidate their gains on Bakhmut, it was all a waste in the end for Wagner, they would have achieved nothing.

Ukraine won't make Bakhmut their main target, likely somewhere in the North or South instead but they're probably happy to use Bakhmut to cause Russia to pull troops from elsewhere and foolishly still focus on this objective.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 17 May 2023

The system itself is still operational, the officials said, and the radar component of the Patriot, one of its most important elements, was not damaged. US officials do not believe the Patriot will need to be removed from the battlefield for repairs.

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Cool, nothingburger then, probably one of the (8) launchers hit by debris.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 17 May 2023