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Zkuq said:

I think he's just trying to be pragmatic but is too ignorant and short-sighted to come up with a solution that's actually acceptable.

Yes. I can see where he is coming from - it’s basically ‘peace is always better than war’; he is not the first person I’ve seen to take that stance on this issue. But it oversimplifies the issue and also assumes both sides are prepared to act in good faith, and that is not something Russia will do. That that’s just scratching the surface of the list of issues with his new referendum proposal. I’d be here until next week if I was to list them all

Last edited by SecondWar - on 03 October 2022

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SecondWar said:
Zkuq said:

I think he's just trying to be pragmatic but is too ignorant and short-sighted to come up with a solution that's actually acceptable.

Yes. I ca see where he is coming from - it’s basically ‘peace is always better than war’; he is not the first person I’ve seen to take that stance on this issue. But it oversimplifies the issue and also assumes both sides are prepared to act in good faith, and that is not something Russia will do. That that’s just scratching the surface of the list of issues with his new referendum proposal. I’d be here until next week if I was to list them all

Demanding Ukraine to be neutral too, after everything Russia has done. Ukraine will never be neutral again, they will despise Russia for centuries and unlike other countries, I can't see a future right now where Russia even attempts to make up for what they've done. Ukraine is firmly allied with the West now and that is Russia's fault. Ukraine will never be neutral again and that's understandable, after the horrific stuff that Russia has done to them.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 03 October 2022

Seeing Ukraine make advances on two fronts is so good. I'm still remaining cautiously optimistic about Kherson but almost everywhere around East Ukraine feels like a shitshow for Russia. From Izyum to Lyman to now heading towards Svatove already.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 03 October 2022



On the topic of vapid Americans who are incapable of making constructive contributions, has anyone seen MTG’s latest statement?

Note: The source I found has been taken down, so 100% sure of its veracity.



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SecondWar said:

On the topic of vapid Americans who are incapable of making constructive contributions, has anyone seen MTG’s latest statement?

Note: The source I found has been taken down, so 100% sure of its veracity.

Sums up MTG's entire life Tbh.

I haven't seen it, maybe? But I'm sure it's something dumb as shit coming from her, Lol.

Her, Tucker Carlson, a few others have been saying dumb shit the entire conflict. They're just unpaid Russian mouthpieces.





Ryuu96 said:
SecondWar said:

On the topic of vapid Americans who are incapable of making constructive contributions, has anyone seen MTG’s latest statement?

Note: The source I found has been taken down, so 100% sure of its veracity.

Sums up MTG's entire life Tbh.

I haven't seen it, maybe? But I'm sure it's something dumb as shit coming from her, Lol.

Her, Tucker Carlson, a few others have been saying dumb shit the entire conflict. They're just unpaid Russian mouthpieces.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-biden-mob-boss-b2178009.html