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SecondWar said:
Zkuq said:

I think he's just trying to be pragmatic but is too ignorant and short-sighted to come up with a solution that's actually acceptable.

Yes. I ca see where he is coming from - it’s basically ‘peace is always better than war’; he is not the first person I’ve seen to take that stance on this issue. But it oversimplifies the issue and also assumes both sides are prepared to act in good faith, and that is not something Russia will do. That that’s just scratching the surface of the list of issues with his new referendum proposal. I’d be here until next week if I was to list them all

Demanding Ukraine to be neutral too, after everything Russia has done. Ukraine will never be neutral again, they will despise Russia for centuries and unlike other countries, I can't see a future right now where Russia even attempts to make up for what they've done. Ukraine is firmly allied with the West now and that is Russia's fault. Ukraine will never be neutral again and that's understandable, after the horrific stuff that Russia has done to them.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 03 October 2022