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This morning, Ukrainian attack drones successfully struck the Gvardeyskoye fuel depot in Russian-occupied Crimea, setting the facility ablaze.

The depot supplie(d) fuel to a large portion of Crimea.

https://xcancel.com/Osinttechnical/status/1979058769561538819?t=UA6R_kymhGH4dMe6vBx47Q&s=19



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America is back: NATO considers massive weapons support for Ukraine in 2026

"The simple answer to your question is yes!" was UK Defence Secretary John Healey’s response when European Pravda asked whether NATO member states have finally realised that Ukraine should have a place within the Alliance.

"Ukraine is increasingly recognised and understood to play a part… The unique leading combat experience that it now has means that it can already and will in the future make a huge contribution to the security of Europe more generally," the British minister added.

The UK’s support for Ukraine’s NATO membership is nothing new – London has long held this position. But then something unexpected happened.

"I couldn’t agree more," German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius said, supporting Healey’s statement.

Can we say that Germany’s veto on Ukraine’s path to NATO membership has been lifted?

No, that would be going too far. After all, NATO enlargement won’t be back on the agenda until the war is over. But the balance of power we will see then will be completely different – seemingly a more favourable one for us.

https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/articles/2025/10/16/7222604/





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S.Peelman said:

So yesterday on some TV programme here they showed how our favorite Russian propaganda TV host that likes to threaten to throw nukes at everything apparently had a guest that said he “learned at military academy that most petrochemical industry in Europe is clustered in the port of Rotterdam”. So obviously they would just toss a nuke at it and boom Europe is defeated. They even mention, lost on the irony I suppose, that it would take just “one day” and if that doesn’t work they should send troops here by sea (somehow) and it “doesn’t matter if they are NATO”.

Now even though I live right next to the port of Rotterdam, I’m not going to lose any sleep over this, because I in turn learned that apparently they haven’t discovered Google Maps yet. That industry being there wasn’t exactly a secret you would need to go to military academy for after all.

And oh there was also a map shown with a missile trajectory drawn towards London, Berlin and Paris for good measure. So yeah, my European friends here on VGC, please proceed to shake in your boots.

Rotterdam has been by far the largest oil harbour in Europe since the 60's (and the largest harbour period from the 60's until Shanghai overtook it 45 years later, and is still the largest outside of Asia), so this information should fall under common knowledge. This should have been as newsworthy as a bag of rice falling over in China.

Sending troops there from Russia, wtf? Do they think they're playing Command & Conquer or what? There's no way that a troop ship would make it until there from Russia, and even if they were to get there, there's no way to supply the troops, so this would be at worst a minor nuisance before the last Russian troops being dealt with.

Nuking Paris? Even if the US would do nothing, France has it's own nukes, and they WILL fire them at Russia if they tried that stunt



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Rotterdam has been by far the largest oil harbour in Europe since the 60's (and the largest harbour period from the 60's until Shanghai overtook it 45 years later, and is still the largest outside of Asia), so this information should fall under common knowledge. This should have been as newsworthy as a bag of rice falling over in China.

Sending troops there from Russia, wtf? Do they think they're playing Command & Conquer or what? There's no way that a troop ship would make it until there from Russia, and even if they were to get there, there's no way to supply the troops, so this would be at worst a minor nuisance before the last Russian troops being dealt with.

Nuking Paris? Even if the US would do nothing, France has it's own nukes, and they WILL fire them at Russia if they tried that stunt

Yeah, these people just live in a completely different world. It’s crazy.



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This joke of a military is what ukraine thankfully has to deal with. It could be much worse.



S.Peelman said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:
Rotterdam has been by far the largest oil harbour in Europe since the 60's (and the largest harbour period from the 60's until Shanghai overtook it 45 years later, and is still the largest outside of Asia), so this information should fall under common knowledge. This should have been as newsworthy as a bag of rice falling over in China.

Sending troops there from Russia, wtf? Do they think they're playing Command & Conquer or what? There's no way that a troop ship would make it until there from Russia, and even if they were to get there, there's no way to supply the troops, so this would be at worst a minor nuisance before the last Russian troops being dealt with.

Nuking Paris? Even if the US would do nothing, France has it's own nukes, and they WILL fire them at Russia if they tried that stunt

Yeah, these people just live in a completely different world. It’s crazy.

It's all domestic propaganda like Kim Yung Un and his threats. Any scare mongering in Europe is a bonus, it's mostly to keep their own military 'confident' and bravado up to dismiss dissent. The worse Russia's position gets, the more outrageous the threats. 

It's the same in Israel. Although the Western press ignores it, domestic propaganda in Hebrew is also off the rails including using nukes. The western press just focuses on Russia's propaganda.

No Russia won't escalate like that. Russia will slowly keep pushing the red lines so Nato doesn't have a clear attack to counter. More stray drones, more incursions on air space, more assassinations. Modern warfare is a battle of attrition, no shock and awe, slowly pushing the lines to normalize the violence so people lose interest... 

Wear your opponent out while desensitizing the 'audience' is the new warfare. The outlandish threats are part of that strategy. Threaten some nonsense for distraction while sending in more drones. It's all theater. Yeah we're killing people and slowly taking over / destroying another country, but we could do so much worse... Aren't we nice not to do so much worse. (Which pretty much sums up Trump's 'peace' plan as well)

Nah bombing harbors is ancient warfare. It's much easier to destroy the economy by for example taking out GPS sattellites. 
https://www.gpsworld.com/when-will-russia-attack-gps-interview-with-former-cia-analyst-george-bebee/

But Putin isn't out to destroy the world, just another desperate narcissist with toxic masculinity clinging on to power with an iron fist to build his legacy.

Putin was first elected in 2000, Netanyahu first in 1996, Trump is a newbie. Why do people keep voting for these kind of sociopaths. How can we stop them from rising to power. And how do we stop them from turning their countries into authoritarian de-facto dictatorships. Putin by clearly rigging the elections and assassinating the opposition, Netanyahu by propaganda, scaremongering and attacking the judiciary branch, Trump taking notes.