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Meghan Mobbs to her father Keith Kellogg after Russia’s massive attack: “Loud night in Kyiv, Dad! Explosions & gunfire, but I feel Russians don’t want peace. Ukraine’s strikes followed Putin’s ceasefire refusal. He wants war & all of Ukraine.”

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) 6 June 2025 at 08:47


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White House quietly pressures Senate to ease Russia sanctions, per WSJ. Trump’s team urges Sen. Graham to soften his bill, prioritizing Moscow ties over Ukraine invasion punishment. Aides say they’re pushing to change “shall” to “may.”
www.wsj.com/politics/pol...

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) 6 June 2025 at 18:47

Who could have seen this coming? /s.

Enjoy being owned by Russia, America.



Too Weak Trump.

  • "Putin respects me, I'll end the war in 24 hours" - War continues months later.
  • "If Putin doesn't accept my ceasefire, they'll be scary consequences" - Russia rejects Trump backed and/or proposed ceasefires multiple times (3-4), breaks another Trump proposed energy ceasefire within the hour of accepting it and Trump issuing no consequences.
  • "I'll give Putin 2 weeks" - Has given Putin 2 weeks, 3 times already, and we're now coming up to almost 6 weeks since Trump gave Putin his initial 2 week deadline.
  • "They'll be big scary sanctions coming Russia's way!" - No sanctions ever came from Trump, so the Senate started working on their own, they have a veto proof majority and Trump wouldn't be able to stop them, so now he is desperately trying to water them down to save Putin.

Americans need anymore proof that Trump is a Russian asset? Whether he is one willingly or not, it still makes him one, he is either purposely working with Putin to help him, or he is a pathetic coward, so pick which it is, makes no difference either way, he's an intentional Russian asset or a useful idiot/coward Russian asset.



Ryuu96 said:

Too Weak Trump.

  • "Putin respects me, I'll end the war in 24 hours" - War continues months later.
  • "If Putin doesn't accept my ceasefire, they'll be scary consequences" - Russia rejects Trump backed and/or proposed ceasefires multiple times (3-4), breaks another Trump proposed energy ceasefire within the hour of accepting it and Trump issuing no consequences.
  • "I'll give Putin 2 weeks" - Has given Putin 2 weeks, 3 times already, and we're now coming up to almost 6 weeks since Trump gave Putin his initial 2 week deadline.
  • "They'll be big scary sanctions coming Russia's way!" - No sanctions ever came from Trump, so the Senate started working on their own, they have a veto proof majority and Trump wouldn't be able to stop them, so now he is desperately trying to water them down to save Putin.

Americans need anymore proof that Trump is a Russian asset? Whether he is one willingly or not, it still makes him one, he is either purposely working with Putin to help him, or he is a pathetic coward, so pick which it is, makes no difference either way, he's an intentional Russian asset or a useful idiot/coward Russian asset.

He has also recently described the conflict as like two school children fighting.

That to ne shows him up as completely inept at international diplomacy and that his weakness is playing into Russia's hands.



TACO is obviously an asset of Moscow, otherwise he wouldn't be making it easier for them to attack Ukrainian civilians.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

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I bet that behind the scenes,that America's air force general are loosing their shit over the fact that drones can wreck havoc on their bases. The countermeasure aren't even that good. Short range missles? Won't work unless we are fighting a small nation that we can absolutely annihilate. Men with shotguns? Not enough. Bullet based air defense? This may be the best option and even then they won't work in a swarm. China would be able to level the playing field with drones coming from everywhere.



shavenferret said:

I bet that behind the scenes,that America's air force general are loosing their shit over the fact that drones can wreck havoc on their bases. The countermeasure aren't even that good. Short range missles? Won't work unless we are fighting a small nation that we can absolutely annihilate. Men with shotguns? Not enough. Bullet based air defense? This may be the best option and even then they won't work in a swarm. China would be able to level the playing field with drones coming from everywhere.

More than that, any country nowadays could "level the playing field" with drones now, an extremely cheap product that can be mass produced and has proven ability to destroy super expensive and high tech fighter jets, tanks, ships? And the ability to kill thousands of soldiers without even lifting a gun, it will change the entire field and power balance of the world.

I mean, sure, drones won't be enough to win a war, but they'd be enough to cause serious damage and make the aggressor think twice before invading. Take a small country with a small GDP, they would struggle to amass a large army, one which is technically advanced too, but imagine they now can amass an army of millions of cheap drones, millions of drones bombing the shit out of the aggressor country.

Ukraine already demonstrated their cheap naval drones can take out and push back a whole frigging Naval force, now they just demonstrated to all the worlds superpowers that their super powerful and expensive jets can also be blown to pieces by drones that cost less than $100k. Honestly, I bet this is why some of the bed wetting is happening too, because Ukraine showed what is possible.

Better start massively investing in electronic warfare, anti-drone technology.

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Ryuu96 said:
shavenferret said:

I bet that behind the scenes,that America's air force general are loosing their shit over the fact that drones can wreck havoc on their bases. The countermeasure aren't even that good. Short range missles? Won't work unless we are fighting a small nation that we can absolutely annihilate. Men with shotguns? Not enough. Bullet based air defense? This may be the best option and even then they won't work in a swarm. China would be able to level the playing field with drones coming from everywhere.

More than that, any country nowadays could "level the playing field" with drones now, an extremely cheap product that can be mass produced and has proven ability to destroy super expensive and high tech fighter jets, tanks, ships? And the ability to kill thousands of soldiers without even lifting a gun, it will change the entire field and power balance of the world.

I mean, sure, drones won't be enough to win a war, but they'd be enough to cause serious damage and make the aggressor think twice before invading. Take a small country with a small GDP, they would struggle to amass a large army, one which is technically advanced too, but imagine they now can amass an army of millions of cheap drones, millions of drones bombing the shit out of the aggressor country.

Ukraine already demonstrated their cheap naval drones can take out and push back a whole frigging Naval force, now they just demonstrated to all the worlds superpowers that their super powerful and expensive jets can also be blown to pieces by drones that cost less than $100k. Honestly, I bet this is why some of the bed wetting is happening too, because Ukraine showed what is possible.

Better start massively investing in electronic warfare, anti-drone technology.

Even EW isn't that great now.  All they need to do is combine fiber optic and AI tech to avoid being susceptible to this EW stuff.   Now that i think about it, drones offer a cheap and easy way to conduct terrorism.  We may see the Chechens use drones against their masters when they finally see how Russia is 100% weaksauce.     



shavenferret said:

Even EW isn't that great now.  All they need to do is combine fiber optic and AI tech to avoid being susceptible to this EW stuff.   Now that i think about it, drones offer a cheap and easy way to conduct terrorism.  We may see the Chechens use drones against their masters when they finally see how Russia is 100% weaksauce.     

The IDF got you beat, they've been using commercial drones to terrorize since 2018 at least.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/8/israel-retrofitting-dji-commercial-drones-to-bomb-and-surveil-gaza

By 2018, DJI drones were reportedly in extensive use across numerous divisions in the Israeli military. The Israeli campaign group Hamushim found evidence that Israeli military-trained operators were using DJI’s Matrice 600 model to drop tear gas on civilian protesters during the following year’s Great March of Return in Gaza.

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/26/g-s1-35437/israel-sniper-drones-gaza-eyewitnesses

https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6357/Gaza:-Israeli-army-expands-its-use-of-quadcopters-to-kill-more-Palestinian-civilians



Houthis and Hezbollah have also used drones, as well as Iran in the spectacular retaliatory attack last year. Hamas is also starting to use drones now, captured from the IDF.


No doubt research into EMP weapons is ramping up across the world super powers.

https://mindmatters.ai/2025/05/defense-emp-cannons-could-down-drone-swarms-like-bug-spray/



AviVector reports a Russian Su-35 fighter jet was likely shot down by a Ukrainian F-16 in Kursk region.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) 7 June 2025 at 13:51

Su-35 was shot down, that is confirmed, but the interesting rumour is that it was shot down by a F-16.

Would this be the first time an F-16 has destroyed another jet in the skies?