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shavenferret said:

They wouldn't have to bend over for Russia if the Germans (who might be influencing france and belgium) would diversify their energy and go into nuclear.  But the ghost of the holocaust is still firmly within germany and nobody will trust them with nuclear power.  Frustrating.

Apart from Germany having their own reasons (the population) to get rid of nuclear energy, this has nothing to do with going into nuclear.

France derives about 70% of its electricity from nuclear energy.... Belgium is a bit over 40%.

Mainland Europe prefers gas for cooking, not electric. You can't power gas stoves with nuclear power... Same for heating, hot water.

But yes, it shouldn't be an excuse not to get gas from elsewhere. Or use a blend with hydrogen from electrolysis. The problem with that is that Hydrogen is a much smaller molecule and more easily leaks out of existing gas pipeline infrastructure. It all takes a lot of time to adjust :/

It's hard to stand up for what's right when you don't want to inconvenience your own population or economy even a hair... Money comes first, own people (that vote for you) second, morals / doing the right thing last.

Germany doesn't need to influence anyone behind the scenes, all countries are out for themselves first. The U in EU is just for mutual trade benefits.



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SvennoJ said:
shavenferret said:

They wouldn't have to bend over for Russia if the Germans (who might be influencing france and belgium) would diversify their energy and go into nuclear.  But the ghost of the holocaust is still firmly within germany and nobody will trust them with nuclear power.  Frustrating.

Apart from Germany having their own reasons (the population) to get rid of nuclear energy, this has nothing to do with going into nuclear.

France derives about 70% of its electricity from nuclear energy.... Belgium is a bit over 40%.

Mainland Europe prefers gas for cooking, not electric. You can't power gas stoves with nuclear power... Same for heating, hot water.

But yes, it shouldn't be an excuse not to get gas from elsewhere. Or use a blend with hydrogen from electrolysis. The problem with that is that Hydrogen is a much smaller molecule and more easily leaks out of existing gas pipeline infrastructure. It all takes a lot of time to adjust :/

It's hard to stand up for what's right when you don't want to inconvenience your own population or economy even a hair... Money comes first, own people (that vote for you) second, morals / doing the right thing last.

Germany doesn't need to influence anyone behind the scenes, all countries are out for themselves first. The U in EU is just for mutual trade benefits.

Bolded: Hence why electrification needs to get pushed forward also in homes. This would eliminate the need for natural gas as electricity can be produced by a plethora of other sources.



Bofferbrauer2 said:

Bolded: Hence why electrification needs to get pushed forward also in homes. This would eliminate the need for natural gas as electricity can be produced by a plethora of other sources.

Rather not. Power failures still happen plenty here in Canada (power lines are all above ground). Big storm, power outage. At least with gas you can still warm up. You can't BBQ on electric either. Plus a gas dryer is more efficient than electric.

Changing to hydrogen gas is a good option but needs a lot of infrastructure changes.



You can produce the hydrogen in home of course. Another appliance for the utility room next to water heater and central air. But it's probably more efficient to do so at industrial scale and you have far less 'leakage' in transport like you have with electricity.

(And then you still have an alternative source of heat when the power goes out)



SvennoJ said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Bolded: Hence why electrification needs to get pushed forward also in homes. This would eliminate the need for natural gas as electricity can be produced by a plethora of other sources.

Rather not. Power failures still happen plenty here in Canada (power lines are all above ground). Big storm, power outage. At least with gas you can still warm up. You can't BBQ on electric either. Plus a gas dryer is more efficient than electric.

Changing to hydrogen gas is a good option but needs a lot of infrastructure changes.



You can produce the hydrogen in home of course. Another appliance for the utility room next to water heater and central air. But it's probably more efficient to do so at industrial scale and you have far less 'leakage' in transport like you have with electricity.

(And then you still have an alternative source of heat when the power goes out)

if i'm ever blessed enough to own a home, i'll definitely get some solar panels.



shavenferret said:
SvennoJ said:

Rather not. Power failures still happen plenty here in Canada (power lines are all above ground). Big storm, power outage. At least with gas you can still warm up. You can't BBQ on electric either. Plus a gas dryer is more efficient than electric.

Changing to hydrogen gas is a good option but needs a lot of infrastructure changes.



You can produce the hydrogen in home of course. Another appliance for the utility room next to water heater and central air. But it's probably more efficient to do so at industrial scale and you have far less 'leakage' in transport like you have with electricity.

(And then you still have an alternative source of heat when the power goes out)

if i'm ever blessed enough to own a home, i'll definitely get some solar panels.

Look for a home that has the roof South facing. Sadly our house isn't all that suited for solar panels, oriented in the least efficient way to catch the sun on the roof with a steep roof as well :/ Cut, rotate 90 degrees, paste...

We did change to a metal roof, which better helps keeping the house cool in summer. The downside of that is avalanches lol. I now have to rake the snow off the roof to prevent it building ice dams and then taking out the deck railing with huge chunks of ice flying down.





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Trump says ‘time is running out’ on Iran nuclear negotiations

The US president said in a social media post discussing a telephone call with Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin that a deal to curb Iran’s ability to develop a nuclear weapon must be reached quickly.

“We also discussed Iran and the fact that time is running out on Iran’s decision pertaining to nuclear weapons, which must be made quickly! I stated to President Putin that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and, on this, I believe that we were in agreement,” Trump said.

“President Putin suggested that he will participate in the discussions with Iran and that he could, perhaps, be helpful in getting this brought to a rapid conclusion. It is my opinion that Iran has been slow-walking their decision on this very important matter, and we will need a definitive answer in a very short period of time!”

Iran’s supreme leader slams US nuclear proposal, says it will continue to enrich uranium

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/04/middleeast/iran-nuclear-enrichment-deal-trump-intl

Iran’s supreme leader has denounced a proposal by the United States aimed at curbing Tehran’s nuclear efforts and demanded that his country retains independence amid reports of Washington offering to become involved in Tehran’s nuclear program.

Despite several rounds of talks between the two sides to thrash out a new nuclear deal major sticking points remain, with Iran insisting on its right to nuclear enrichment.

“The first word of the US is that Iran should not have a nuclear industry and should rely on the United States,”



A massive Ukrainian UAV attack is underway. Lots of drones are reported on Russian territory already. In Melitopol, there are power outages reported. In Rostov, explosions are heard as air defense is engaging drones.



https://bsky.app/profile/noelreports.com/post/3lqsoanc45s22

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It was an attack on an electrical substation

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2064538/Ukraine-Russia-drone-attack-power-cut

Last edited by shavenferret - on 04 June 2025

SvennoJ said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Bolded: Hence why electrification needs to get pushed forward also in homes. This would eliminate the need for natural gas as electricity can be produced by a plethora of other sources.

Rather not. Power failures still happen plenty here in Canada (power lines are all above ground). Big storm, power outage. At least with gas you can still warm up. You can't BBQ on electric either. Plus a gas dryer is more efficient than electric.

Changing to hydrogen gas is a good option but needs a lot of infrastructure changes.



You can produce the hydrogen in home of course. Another appliance for the utility room next to water heater and central air. But it's probably more efficient to do so at industrial scale and you have far less 'leakage' in transport like you have with electricity.

(And then you still have an alternative source of heat when the power goes out)

Power lines above ground are a rarity in western Europe (Apart of the very high voltage long-distance ones, which to my knowledge are almost never affected by anything), and I think much of eastern and southern Europe, too, so this problem is much less an issue here.

Oh, and there are electric BBQ grills. We got two of them here btw.

And I don't think I have ever seen a gas dryer in my entire life here, or even heard of that concept before. I couldn't even find one on Amazon here.

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 05 June 2025

SvennoJ said:

Mainland Europe prefers gas for cooking, not electric.

Not that we are going completely off-topic, but this statement is false.

Gas is mainly used in southern and eastern European countries and England, but with sinking tendency. For the rest of Europe it is less than 5% gas. It also depends on the age of the buildings, newer bildings are electric only even in "gas countries". Gas is used in power plants to create electricity, incidentally

Can we get back to the topic?



“Like a chihuahua hurting a much bigger dog” — that’s how Trump described Ukraine’s recent strikes on Russia.

He reportedly called them “strong” and “powerful” but worries they might complicate his plans to broker a ceasefire, per Axios.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 5 June 2025 at 12:30

That "Chihuahua" fended off Russia's full might when they had barely any support from the West at the start of the invasion and then pushed them back from Kyiv, Sumy and executed successful counterattacks in Kharkhiv and Kherson. People still underestimate them, Trump says all this shit about how Ukraine would instantly collapse without America and be totally annihilated and Ukraine pulls off one of the biggest blows to Russia's air force without America even knowing about it or using any American weapons.

It's more of the same propaganda from America that has happened since Trump came into power, diminishing Ukraine and trying to paint a picture that Ukraine doesn't stand a chance, like how they said Russia only lost the battle of Kyiv because they got stuck in the mud and unfortunately got caught up in bad weather, it's an attempt to diminish Ukraine's accomplishments whilst at the same time trying to ignore how much Russia fucked up too, they blame it on the weather, Russia just got unlucky, when in actual fact it was a combination of brilliant defence by Ukraine and a complete tactical fuck up by Russia, not the weather.

"Worries they might complicate his plans to broker a ceasefire" - Lmfao!!!!

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 05 June 2025