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Cobretti2 said:

Trump hasn't got a low IQ, he has a low EQ and is a narcissist. He knows very well what he is doing and saying and is trying to provoke things to suit his own agenda of trying to profit from every interaction. All he cares about is saying he stopped the war at any cost so his ego isn't looked down upon as he said he would stop the war, and that cost is Ukraine

He definitely has a low EQ but I'm not sure if I ever saw anything from him which sounded clever. He's a huge narcissist and that's what helps him to be relevant because humanity tends to let narcissists succeed much easier in life but otherwise? 

That guy is a billionaire but let's be honest: considering what he inherited from his father and how easy it is to make more money with a big amount you already have, he probably even failed in this. I mean, you can pay the best teams to avoid any taxes, you can invest your money with the best conditions and Trump still didn't manage to achieve more financially as anyone else without a clue and help would have managed. And without his narcissist character not to care about anything morally he would've achieved shit. 



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A couple of weeks ago I'd have said there's a zero percent chance that the UK would rejoin the EU, but maybe that's now risen to ten percent...maybe?

Starmer's government have struggled to establish a strong narrative since they came in, 'Bre-turning' would certainly solve that problem (and also restore 5%to our GDP). I have a feeling he won't have the stones for that though...

A silver lining to trump's twattery is that it seems to be uniting a lot of factions that were previously fracturing.

It can only be a good thing that a growing number of non-american MAGA sympathisers have woken to the fact that they're not invited to the party.



Biggerboat1 said:

A couple of weeks ago I'd have said there's a zero percent chance that the UK would rejoin the EU, but maybe that's now risen to ten percent...maybe?

Starmer's government have struggled to establish a strong narrative since they came in, 'Bre-turning' would certainly solve that problem (and also restore 5%to our GDP). I have a feeling he won't have the stones for that though...

A silver lining to trump's twattery is that it seems to be uniting a lot of factions that were previously fracturing.

It can only be a good thing that a growing number of non-american MAGA sympathisers have woken to the fact that they're not invited to the party.

I can't see Starmer ever proposing re-joining the EU...He is very much more along the lines of "We voted for it, time to move on" and he is probably a bit worried about there still being a large portion of anti-EU and reversing course so soon after a public vote, I don't think he has the stones for it, I believe Lib Dems should make their big pitch for the next election to re-join the EU, it may not cause them to win but damn I would love for Lib Dems under Ed Davey to be the opposition party instead of Tories and Lib Dems can sort of fill a gap now.

I have to give Starmer credit though, I think he has done a brilliant job at rallying Europe and looking like a leader of Europe, I feel like UK-EU relations are the best they have been in over 10 years, Lol. I think Starmer is going to balance the act of being a good partner to EU without actually re-joining EU. UK is using its military influence and standing to come back into the fold. The only thing I'd say is that I'm annoyed by how much he tries with Trump and refuses to criticise him because he's trying to avoid Trump tariffs which I think is futile, I do believe that it would only help his polling if Trump started attacking us next and bring us closer to European unity, Lol.

And it's funny to see right-wing parties across Europe suddenly realising how toxic it is to associate themselves with Trump/America now and starting to criticise too, even Farage at times has had to throw a little rebuttal at America which must have broken his poor little heart, and it is an effective attack angle for parties now to criticise other parties for bending over to America, I feel like the left/centre finally have their angle of attack which people can rally behind, Lol. In the same way that the right blame everything on immigrants.

Anyway Reform UK is currently eating itself apart even aside from America, Lmao.

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The death toll of the russian attack against Dobropillia in the Donetsk region has risen to 11, with 30 injured. Eight apartment buildings were damaged. russia launched a second strike during firefighting efforts, damaging a fire truck.

russia is a terrorist state.

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— Olena Halushka (@halushka.bsky.social) 8 March 2025 at 06:59

Responding to a comment about putin bombing Ukraine, Trump says that “anyone would be doing it in his position”.

— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) 7 March 2025 at 17:21

"Anyone would do it"

REPORTER: You said on social media that Russia is pounding Ukraine. Why not provide Ukraine with air defenses?

TRUMP: Because I have to know that they want to settle. We want them to settle.

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 7 March 2025 at 17:23

Trump said he finds it "easier" to work with Russia than Ukraine and that Putin "wants to end the war".

Meanwhile from Russia

At the same time, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova dismissed Trump’s threat of new sanctions, claiming that past restrictions have failed to stop Moscow from pursuing its "objectives" in Ukraine. As reported, she shared this with CNN.

— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) 7 March 2025 at 17:47

“We are not going to give in to anyone,” he declared, rejecting the idea of making concessions. Instead, he insisted that Russia must choose a peace deal that suits its interests and would “ensure long-term stability and security.” He went even further, stating that Russia “will not give up” what it considers its own land—a clear reference to Ukraine’s illegally occupied territories.

Meanwhile, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov doubled down on the Kremlin’s hardline stance. Speaking at a press conference on March 6, he flatly rejected any proposal to deploy European peacekeepers to enforce a future ceasefire in Ukraine. “There is no room for compromise on this issue,” Lavrov said, warning that Moscow would interpret any deployment of European forces as NATO sending troops to Ukraine.

Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Maria Zakharova backed him up, dismissing the possibility of a ceasefire agreement or the presence of European troops in Ukraine. Speaking on March 6, she stated that Russia considers any proposal that would allow Ukraine to “catch its breath” along the front line unacceptable.

Kremlin Rejects Peace Talks and Ceasefire Proposals

So Russia is "easier to deal with" despite Russia refusing peace talks, ceasefire and offering any concessions. Meanwhile Trump has tried to force Ukraine to accept a dozen concessions and Russia none. According to Trump as well, in regards to Russia bombing and slaughtering civilians because America pulled back support: "anyone would do it"



If anymore evidence was needed that Trump is Putin's puppet.

Minerals deal won't be enough to restart US aid and intelligence sharing with Ukraine - NBC News

Trump aides report that if Ukraine signs the critical minerals deal during the meeting with the US in Saudi Arabia next week, the aid will not be restarted.

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— Anton Gerashchenko (@antongerashchenko.bsky.social) 9 March 2025 at 11:47

President Trump has made it clear in private conversations that he wants Ukraine to change its stance on peace negotiations, including a willingness to make concessions to Russia. He also wants some movement towards elections in Ukraine.

Source: nbcnews.com/politics/natio…

— Anton Gerashchenko (@antongerashchenko.bsky.social) 9 March 2025 at 11:48

So what we have so far is.

Ukraine Concessions

  • Complete Surrender to Russia
  • Give America Billions in Minerals
  • Surrender 20% of Ukraine to Russia
  • Stop Being Mean to Russia in UN
  • Not Allowed in NATO
  • America Won't Protect Them
  • Zelenskyy's Removal

Russian Concessions

  • None

To help bring "peace" America is weakening one side, that is Ukraine, by...

  • Turning Off Aid Completely
  • Turning Off Intelligence Sharing
  • Cutting Off Satellite Access

"Peace Through Strength" with China, but with Russia, that goes out of the window.

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USA Blocks Columbia from purchasing Gripen jets from SAAB. They use General Electric engines so USA can block it. But Trump doesn't block it because he sees Columbia as problematic but because he wants them to buy F16V instead because once again, he doesn't care about anything as long as it can push American sales.

It gets clearer every day that no country and especially not European countries should buy any American military tech anymore if there's any alternative (also no Swiss).

Trump will just block or just shut down any system from any country if they don't do what he wants even years after they've been sold already



crissindahouse said:

USA Blocks Columbia from purchasing Gripen jets from SAAB. They use General Electric engines so USA can block it. But Trump doesn't block it because he sees Columbia as problematic but because he wants them to buy F16V instead because once again, he doesn't care about anything as long as it can push American sales.

It gets clearer every day that no country and especially not European countries should buy any American military tech anymore if there's any alternative (also no Swiss).

Trump will just block or just shut down any system from any country if they don't do what he wants even years after they've been sold already

What that will also almost certainly lead to it companies like SAAB investing in variants that use Rolls-Royce engines instead of GE ones.



No American shit in Europe's military. Invest in Europe.



double-post



Poland's Minister of Foreign Affairs

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