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Ukrainian forces are retaking more and more villages around Pokrovsk. Russian channels report of problems in manpower and Russian glide bombs being jammed.

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— (((Tendar))) (@tendar.bsky.social) 6 March 2025 at 14:59

Together with reports coming from Toretsk, Chasiv Yar and Kupyansk, where Ukrainian forces are gradually pushing back Russian troops, this seems to be not a local outlier, but a general development.

— (((Tendar))) (@tendar.bsky.social) 6 March 2025 at 14:59


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These are the moves of a U.S. President throwing a tantrum over Ukraine, trying to twist its arm like it’s some kind of personal colonial asset or Banana Republic. All with the expectation that Ukraine will just roll over and sign a “peace deal” with no security guarantees.

No negotiations, no discussions, no pesky Ukrainian democracy—just kiss the ring and get on with it. 

Yet Trump is making the same mistake as Vladimir Putin—grossly underestimating Ukraine as a sovereign nation determined to survive. And, as history keeps showing us, that is a terrible idea.

This is where Trump and Putin, two very different men with a Ukraine problem, collide with reality. Trump, much like Putin, sees Ukraine as an inconvenience, an obstacle, something that should be grateful to even have a seat at the table. Instead, to his visible frustration on Friday, he met a leader who wouldn’t grovel. The upshot was an unprecedented public spat between two wartime allies that saw Zelensky storm out of the White House before a minerals deal could be penned.

Putin made a similar blunder when he convinced himself that Ukraine was some kind of fake country, created by Vladimir Lenin as a clerical error. He expected a leisurely parade into Kyiv and instead walked straight into a nightmare of his own making—one where demoralized “peasants” from Russian jokes turned out to be one of the world’s best warfighters with an entire society fiercely backing them.

Like Putin, Trump just doesn’t get Ukraine. His approach hasn’t weakened the Ukrainian President. If anything, it’s done the opposite. Even people who can’t stand Zelensky’s failures have given him credit for standing his ground. That’s because Trump’s approach isn’t just an insult to Zelensky but to Ukraine itself—its institution of national leadership. And if there’s one thing Ukrainians love more than anything, it’s proving arrogant world leaders wrong.

Trump doesn’t see the nation behind the name. Instead, his Administration is sending feelers out to opposition figures like Petro Poroshenko and Yulia Tymoshenko—both of whom only 6% to 10% voters say they would back. Neither has a realistic chance of leading Ukraine in free and fair elections—with Zelensky and war hero General Valeriy Zaluzhny the clear frontrunners.

If the idea is to find a more compliant Ukrainian leader, good luck with that. Putin tried the same thing with his long-time collaborator Viktor Medvedchuk, his pick for a puppet leader, before Medvedchuk was arrested on treason charges in April 2022.

That’s because—and this part is key—this war isn’t about Zelensky. It’s about the people. It’s about the 1 million men and women serving in Ukraine’s army, standing in trenches, dodging drones, evacuating the wounded, and keeping the front lines intact. It’s about the millions more who are keeping the country running, raising funds, developing new weapons, and refusing to break under relentless Russian bombardment.

History is full of examples of what happens when an army loses the will to fight—the Syrian regime’s collapse in December, the Russian front in World War I. That’s not happening here. Russia is advancing and inflicting heavy losses on Ukraine. But Ukraine is still standing because Ukrainians are still willing to pay the price for their survival. Yes, Western weapons help greatly—but weapons don’t fight wars. People do.

Which brings us back to Trump’s decision to pause military aid and intelligence sharing. It’s a terrible blow to the defenders of Ukraine.

But, again, it won’t force Ukraine to surrender any time soon or accept a peace deal without security guarantees. If there’s one thing this war has proven, it’s that Ukrainians are good at improvising when they have to. When Russian firepower became overwhelming, they introduced and mastered things like FPV drones and naval drones, which effectively revolutionized modern warfare.

Ukraine has options. Europe is still in the game. The country’s domestic weapons production is ramping up. Across Ukraine, small workshops—what some call the “shadow military-industrial complex”—are working 24/7 to keep the war effort going. Ideas on how to mitigate the damage from Trump’s siding with Putin are boiling.

As long as we the people want to keep our country we love, there is always a way forward.

Never, Never Underestimate Ukraine | TIME



As I've said before, I wanted Ukraine to win to keep its sovereignty and stand up to the biggest POS world leader of the 20th century so far. Them pushing Russia out and humiliating Trump and Vance would only be the cherry on top of the sundae.



Top Trump allies hold secret talks with Zelenskyy’s Ukrainian opponents – POLITICO

Zaluzhnyi during his speech at the Royal Institute of International Affairs (Chatham House), cited by The Times; Zaluzhnyi’s column on Ukrainska Pravda. "It is not just the axis of evil trying to revise the world order … The US is destroying the world order. It is obvious the White House has questioned the unity of the whole western world. And now Washington is trying to delegate the security issues to Europe without the participation of the US."

"It is obvious that Washington's failure to recognise Russia’s aggression is a new challenge not only for Ukraine but for Europe as well. Therefore, this is enough to understand that it is no longer just Russia and the axis of evil trying to destroy the world order, but the United States are effectively finalising its destruction."

Former Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhnyi: Not just Russia and axis of evil trying to destroy world order, but also US | Ukrainska Pravda

Ukraine's Opposition Leaders Reject Holding Wartime Elections
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— Eliot Higgins (@eliothiggins.bsky.social) 6 March 2025 at 14:13

America's attempts at forced regime change in Ukraine is going brilliantly.



🇳🇴 Norway will more than double its aid to Ukraine, reaching nearly $8 billion in 2025. All parties in Norwegian parliament agreed to this.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 6 March 2025 at 21:20

Italian PM Meloni suggests extending NATO’s Article 5 to Ukraine without full membership, per FT. Article 5 states that an attack on one NATO country is an attack on all.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 6 March 2025 at 21:07

‼️ The U.S. is pressuring Ukraine to agree to a quick ceasefire with Russia as a condition for a minerals deal, per Bloomberg. Meanwhile, Russia faces no demand and can act like it wants, killing innocent people and continue their invasion.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 6 March 2025 at 20:55

⚠️ “Ukrainians are to blame for the U.S. limiting their access to intelligence and ending support,” said U.S. special envoy Keith Kellogg.

He claimed Zelensky was warned that “no one contradicts the U.S. president in the Oval Office” and that talks would happen only after a deal—“but he refused.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 6 March 2025 at 20:50

⚡️ Ukraine is working on obtaining alternative sources of intelligence, according to Defense Minister Rustem Umerov. "If necessary, we will ask, including from Germany," he stated.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 6 March 2025 at 15:19


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❗️🇪🇺 Europe braces for confrontation: EU leaders have agreed on plans to allocate an additional €800 billion for defense. All EU members supported the decision—except Hungary.

The funds also include investments in Ukraine’s defense industry.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 6 March 2025 at 20:57


🇨🇳 China’s envoy to the EU, Lu Shaye, says he is “appalled” by Trump’s treatment of Europe, calling it “brazen and domineering.” He also stressed that a Ukraine peace deal should not be decided solely by the U.S. and Russia.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 6 March 2025 at 15:14

When even China is more reasonable than America but also fuck China.

Ukraine Expands Agricultural Exports to China with New Trade Agreements - Oj

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Trump has discussed with aides the possibility of calibrating America’s NATO engagement in a way that favors members of the alliance that spend a set percentage of their gross domestic product on defense, the officials said. As part of the potential policy shift, the U.S. might not defend a fellow NATO member that is attacked if the country doesn’t meet the defense spending threshold, the officials said. If Trump does make that change, it would mark a significant shift from a core tenet of the alliance known as Article 5, which says that an attack on any NATO country is an attack on all of them. 

Trump considering major NATO policy shift

Which defeats the point of NATO, Lmao. You don't get to pick and choose who you defend in a defensive alliance. Anyway..."According to NATO’s most recent statistics, last year 23 NATO members’ defense spending exceeded 2% of their GDP. Five of those nations — Estonia, Greece, Latvia, Poland and the U.S. — spent more than 3% on defense. Poland had the highest percentage, dedicating 4.12% of its GDP to defense."

The countries that in the past didn't meet the 2% were often the ones not even in danger of being invaded anyway, the countries that were in danger of being invaded, like Poland and the Baltics, have met the 2% for a long time, but I doubt Trump even knows that, I'm betting he will instead demand an unachievable goal of say, 5% of GDP in defence spending, considering the majority are now meeting 2%. I do think 3% should be the target now, but I would never say "Lul. You're on your own to be slaughtered because you didn't spend 2%+ on your defence" to an ally.