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Forums - Politics Discussion - Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

For years, people on the left and right screamed, the MIC controls America! Well, based on recent events, I'd say that is definitely, nowhere near true, because if it did, it wouldn't allow Trump to destroy America's global reputation and push countries away from American equipment and into their own domestic supplies, it is pretty clear now how little power they actually have.

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With USA backstabbing everyone, Russia's sea fleet does also look way stronger now. Since no country can ever expect USA to help against Russia anymore, Russia's biggest pride with all their submarines and so on is a pretty serious threat to any country.



crissindahouse said:

With USA backstabbing everyone, Russia's sea fleet does also look way stronger now. Since no country can ever expect USA to help against Russia anymore, Russia's biggest pride with all their submarines and so on is a pretty serious threat to any country.

Hopefully the EU and individual european nations will start to protest more and more.  They've issued some half-hearted rebuttals and villification so far but it's not near enough condemnation.  The thing about Trump is that while he responds to compliments he can't stand the opposite so they should be much more vocal.  



crissindahouse said:

With USA backstabbing everyone, Russia's sea fleet does also look way stronger now. Since no country can ever expect USA to help against Russia anymore, Russia's biggest pride with all their submarines and so on is a pretty serious threat to any country.

Their submarines are definitely a threat but Russia's surface fleet is still a bit of a joke, Lol. Ukraine has dismantled their entire surface fleet in the Black Sea with cheap ass drones, then Türkiye controls the Black Sea anyway. Their Baltic Fleet is surrounded by NATO countries. Their Pacific and Northern Fleet is a threat but their flagship is in a constant state of repairs.

Ukraine if anything shown that navies will need to seriously adjust for future wars in light of naval drones, at least their surface fleets will. But yes, their submarines would still be a major problem, they have a lot of them, they are harder to attack, as long as Russia doesn't park them up in range of a long-range missile like a bunch of morons, Lol.

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