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For years, people on the left and right screamed, the MIC controls America! Well, based on recent events, I'd say that is definitely, nowhere near true, because if it did, it wouldn't allow Trump to destroy America's global reputation and push countries away from American equipment and into their own domestic supplies, it is pretty clear now how little power they actually have.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 06 March 2025

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With USA backstabbing everyone, Russia's sea fleet does also look way stronger now. Since no country can ever expect USA to help against Russia anymore, Russia's biggest pride with all their submarines and so on is a pretty serious threat to any country.



crissindahouse said:

With USA backstabbing everyone, Russia's sea fleet does also look way stronger now. Since no country can ever expect USA to help against Russia anymore, Russia's biggest pride with all their submarines and so on is a pretty serious threat to any country.

Hopefully the EU and individual european nations will start to protest more and more.  They've issued some half-hearted rebuttals and villification so far but it's not near enough condemnation.  The thing about Trump is that while he responds to compliments he can't stand the opposite so they should be much more vocal.  



crissindahouse said:

With USA backstabbing everyone, Russia's sea fleet does also look way stronger now. Since no country can ever expect USA to help against Russia anymore, Russia's biggest pride with all their submarines and so on is a pretty serious threat to any country.

Their submarines are definitely a threat but Russia's surface fleet is still a bit of a joke, Lol. Ukraine has dismantled their entire surface fleet in the Black Sea with cheap ass drones, then Türkiye controls the Black Sea anyway. Their Baltic Fleet is surrounded by NATO countries. Their Pacific and Northern Fleet is a threat but their flagship is in a constant state of repairs.

Ukraine if anything shown that navies will need to seriously adjust for future wars in light of naval drones, at least their surface fleets will. But yes, their submarines would still be a major problem, they have a lot of them, they are harder to attack, as long as Russia doesn't park them up in range of a long-range missile like a bunch of morons, Lol.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 06 March 2025

The disastrous meeting between Trump and Zelensky at the White House last week is just a pretext to do what was already planned: cut off military aid to Ukraine and suspend intelligence-sharing. This looks like an incredibly cruel, wicked revenge against a country that did nothing but defend itself

— Olga Tokariuk (@olgatokariuk.bsky.social) 5 March 2025 at 22:50

The US is now officially helping Russia to win the war. With this decision, it becomes complicit in future mass civilian deaths in Ukraine, as Russian missiles will fly in freely and Ukraine won't have the means to hit their launching sites or intercept them

— Olga Tokariuk (@olgatokariuk.bsky.social) 5 March 2025 at 22:50

While Trump’s team spreads defeatism and tries to blackmail Ukraine into surrender, Ukrainian soldiers on the battlefield remain unimpressed by the proclamations coming out of Washington Oblast.

Their actions speak louder than words.

— Andrew Perpetua (@andrewperpetua.bsky.social) 6 March 2025 at 00:05

In recent days, Ukraine has:

Recaptured Kotlyne
Liberated Pischane
Pushed into Shevchenko

These gains prove two critical points.

— Andrew Perpetua (@andrewperpetua.bsky.social) 6 March 2025 at 00:05

🔹 First: Ukraine still has the ability to seize the initiative.

Despite immense challenges, its military can concentrate forces, execute counterattacks, and maintain operational momentum—suggesting it retains significant reserves.

— Andrew Perpetua (@andrewperpetua.bsky.social) 6 March 2025 at 00:05

🔹 Second: These gains expose why both Moscow and Trump’s camp are desperate to freeze the war.

Russia has severely overextended itself, relying on an illusion of invincibility. The last thing Putin wants is a sustained Ukrainian counteroffensive that shatters that image.

— Andrew Perpetua (@andrewperpetua.bsky.social) 6 March 2025 at 00:05

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While U.S. defense stocks are slumping, European defense stocks are rising quickly because the markets have concluded that those governments will be spending lots more on defense. And every government around the world knows what happened to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky last week in the Oval Office.

The conclusion that many leaders will draw from the altercation that U.S. President Donald Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance had with Zelensky is that U.S. security guarantees—a key reason why countries tend to buy U.S. weapons—are not going to be a convincing argument anymore. So far, Trump's efforts to "make America great again" have been miserable for that all-important U.S. power pillar: the defense industry.

Ouch. Since Trump's inauguration, shares in the six biggest U.S. defense companies have fallen by an average of 4 percent. Meanwhile, shares of Europe's largest defense groups—including Germany's Rheinmetall—"have surged" by almost 40 percent in the same period, the Financial Times reported on Feb. 25.

On March 3, the first trading day after Trump's acrimonious meeting with Zelensky on Friday and European leaders' subsequent defense summit in London over the weekend, European defense stocks made an even bigger leap: At close of trade on Monday, Italy's Leonardo was up by more than 17 percent and France's Thales by almost as much; Rheinmetall rose by 15 percent, and Saab of Sweden rose by nearly 12 percent.

In recent days and weeks, the markets have been watching the announcements from Washington and unsurprisingly concluded that the Trump administration wants to slash the defense budget. To be sure, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has said that he wants to grow U.S. warfighting capabilities while cutting administrative costs, but Elon Musk's newly established Department of Government Efficiency appears to be slashing funding across the government.

European countries, meanwhile, are getting serious about growing their armed forces.

"When countries buy weapons, they consider the equipment, and thus the manufacturer, and thus the country, because these things matter with equipment that you use for many years, up to 40 years," Limmergard said. "And U.S. foreign military sales have depended a lot on America offering security guarantees."

In other words, buying U.S. weapons was a way of buying the United States' friendship and protection. After months of agonizing debate in 2021, still nonaligned Finland chose to buy U.S.-made F-35 fighter jets to replace its aging fleet of fighter jets, even though Gripens from Sweden—Finland's close friend and neighbor—would have been cheaper. Although the F-35s have undisputed capabilities, it was lost on nobody that the Finns' $9.4 billion deal also included U.S. benevolence and security guarantees. Indeed, the deal was managed through the U.S. government's Foreign Military Sales program.

But with Trump now openly appearing to side with Russia and President Vladimir Putin, even the most generous buyers of U.S. weapons can no longer be sure that their money will result in Washington's benevolence and protection.

Such uncertainty is particularly problematic because modern weapons need constant software updates. That means that buyers of these extremely pricy products need complete certainty that the seller country will remain cooperative and that the software updates will thus be made available. Even the smallest doubts that Trump could decide to harm friendly governments by blocking software updates to their military arsenals is enough to make such governments reconsider U.S. military acquisitions.

How Trump Is Killing the U.S. Defense Industry – Foreign Policy



In addition to signing the resource deal, some members of the Trump administration want the Ukrainian president to fire a number of officials whom the White House has deemed "hostile to negotiations with Russia."

American weapons inside Ukraine have also been moved to bases.

— MAKS 24 👀🇺🇦 (@maks23.bsky.social) 6 March 2025 at 11:16

🇺🇸❌🇺🇦 Trump's administration is planning to revoke temporary legal status for some 240,000 Ukrainians who fled the conflict with Russia, potentially putting them on a fast-track to deportation, - Reuters

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— MAKS 24 👀🇺🇦 (@maks23.bsky.social) 6 March 2025 at 11:20

🇪🇺✈️ A European air force of 120 fighter jets could secure Ukraine’s skies from Russian attacks without escalating the war, say military experts. The proposed Sky Shield would be EU-led, separate from NATO, and protect Kyiv, Odesa, Lviv & nuclear plants.

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/m...

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 6 March 2025 at 10:56

🤮 US state secretary calls Moscow's full-scale invasion of Ukraine "proxy war between US and Russia"

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— Ukrainska Pravda 🇺🇦 (@pravda.ua) 6 March 2025 at 11:35

🇪🇺🇺🇦 Zelensky: During a meeting with Von der Leyen and António Costa in Brussels, we discussed strengthening the defense capabilities of Ukraine and all of Europe.

Air defense, weapons and ammunition for Ukraine, timely deliveries, strengthening Ukraine’s defense industry, EU accession negotiations.

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— MAKS 24 👀🇺🇦 (@maks23.bsky.social) 6 March 2025 at 15:09

“Project Russia,” Reveals Putin’s Playbook | Washington Spectator



Russia Condemns Macron’s Nuclear Umbrella Proposal - The Moscow Times

"How dare you offer your protection to countries we want to invade!"



Tusk believes that the war in Ukraine, the shift in the US administration's stance towards Europe and, above all, the arms race unleashed by Russia, present new challenges for Europe.

"Europe must meet this challenge and must win. I'm convinced that Russia is going to lose the arms race. Just as the Soviet Union lost a similar race thirty years ago," the Polish prime minister stressed.

He added that this will help avoid a broader conflict.

"Today, Europe is ready to take action on security. It is prepared to arm itself more swiftly, intelligently and effectively than Russia," Tusk said.

"There is no reason to be overly optimistic today, but I am convinced that this is a turning point, as Europe has recognised the responsibility it bears," he added.

Europe ready to take responsibility for security and defeat Russia in arms race, Polish PM says | Ukrainska Pravda



🤔 Kellogg: "US and Russia must reset relations to end war in Ukraine."

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— MAKS 24 👀🇺🇦 (@maks23.bsky.social) 6 March 2025 at 15:00

Kellogg on effect of US military aid and intelligence cutoff to Ukraine: "It's like hitting a mule in the face with a two by four, you know. You got their attention."