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US mineral deal calls for Ukraine to relinquish half of its revenues from natural resources, including minerals, gas and oil, as well as earnings from ports and other infrastructure without any security guarantees in exchange - NYT

Wtf did they even change?!?! Isn't this new draft even worse than the first one?!

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No, sorry NYT, the correct headline is TRUMP EXTORTS UKRAINE FOR MINERAL CONCESSIONS; REFUSES TO OFFER SECURITY GUARANTEES

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— Luigi de Guzman (@ouij.bsky.social) 22 February 2025 at 14:57

What the actual fuck is revised about it?!



Give us half of everything and we'll give you nothing. What a "deal". This is so fucking obviously a deal meant to be so insane that it has no choice but to be rejected so that Trump can scream Ukraine as being unreasonable to his dumb ass fans.

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KYIV — The Trump administration has asked Ukraine to withdraw an annual resolution condemning Russia's war, and wants to replace it with a toned-down U.S. statement that was perceived as being close to pro-Russian in Kyiv, according to an official and three European diplomats familiar with the plan, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive political situation between nations that have typically acted as partners.

U.S. pressures Kyiv to replace U.N. resolution condemning Russia - The Washington Post

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Please stop being mean to Putin!!! - America.



At this stage, UK/EU and Ukraine should enter into a fair trade agreement for Ukraine's future resources, I'm not talking pillaging Ukraine's corpse like America is but a typical fair trade deal wherein UK/EU receives priority access, first right of refusal, to select Ukraine resources, at reasonable payment offers, not for free, but maybe a discount that is still profitable to Ukraine. Just to boot this scummy bastard (America) out of the way and send a massive "fuck you" to Trump and show how much of a terrible negotiator he is.

America is not our fucking ally, they're basically an enemy now, EU needs to dive into all their money reserves, pump tens of billions into Ukraine and our own militaries, and go full into an almost war economy mode, NATO's new target should be 3% of GDP with the bigger countries aiming for 4%. Use all those frozen Russian assets and send them to Ukraine who in turn buys from Europe using Russia's money.

I wouldn't be surprised at this rate if America started drone striking Ukrainian positions.

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Hasn't been a single actual concession from Russia's side thus far from the master dealmaker.

  • Palestine - You guys leave your homes, never return, and I (with Israel) steal all your land.
  • Ukraine - You guys will make all the concessions to Russia and let us steal your resources.


Ryuu96 said:

Hasn't been a single actual concession from Russia's side thus far from the master dealmaker.

  • Palestine - You guys leave your homes, never return, and I (with Israel) steal all your land.
  • Ukraine - You guys will make all the concessions to Russia and let us steal your resources.

The art of the deal is:

1) threaten and bully the people that are supposedly on

his side.

2) get on his knees and present submissively for bigger bullies.

So, he basically behaves like a chimpanzee. 



🇺🇸❗️🇺🇦 Radio NV, NYT and CNN write that the new agreement on minerals proposed by Trump is even worse than the previous one.

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— Savchenko Volodymyr (@savchenkoua.bsky.social) 22 February 2025 at 19:54

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Trump is such an unbelievable piece of shit.

If the US does indeed leave Ukraine/Europe to it's own fate, could this open the door to China supporting/supplying Russia?

I believe up until now they've been warned by the US not to get involved.

If Europe gets it's shit together I could see it putting up stuff resistance (via Ukraine) against Russia, but China seems like another level of adversary...



Biggerboat1 said:

Trump is such an unbelievable piece of shit.

If the US does indeed leave Ukraine/Europe to it's own fate, could this open the door to China supporting/supplying Russia?

I believe up until now they've been warned by the US not to get involved.

If Europe gets it's shit together I could see it putting up stuff resistance (via Ukraine) against Russia, but China seems like another level of adversary...

I don't think China will ever get involved like that, at least not directly supplying Russia, China still likes to pretend it's a country which cares for global security and order, they will more likely hope that this drives Europe into the arms of China, it benefits China to drag this out at this stage, the weaker Russia is, the more dependent they become on China and China will be the one turning Russia into a vassal state, then they will also come in to try to help restore Ukraine after the war.

So basically I think China's best bet here is to just let things play out.

Plus China won't want to waste its military equipment on Russia when they have military goals of their own, like Taiwan, and with the rate things are going, America will be on their own if China moves on Taiwan, China will probably hope that Europe and America's relationship totally breaks down because China and America have a much bigger rivalry than China and Europe. Simply put, I don't believe there's any political or military reasons for China to directly get involved in the Russia/Ukraine war.

China wouldn't want to turn Europe and America into an enemy, instead they will hope a wedge is driven between us, China becoming involved in the Ukraine war puts China in Europe's crosshairs too and quite frankly, America hates China far more than Russia so that would give America a stronger excuse to go back to supporting Ukraine, I think that reason is simply racism, but it does seem like America doesn't give a fuck about Russia anymore, even admire them, but China who is basically the same they still hate, the only reason I can think of is racism, Lol.

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