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Excellent point, Thx.

Diminishing impact is a hard to quantify but very real factor that few people ever take into consideration when guesstimating software to hardware impact sales.



The rEVOLution is not being televised

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starcraft said:
Moneybags said:
sailordude said:
starcraft why do you always talk about RPG's?! iv never played an rpg in my life and either have close to any of my friends.

Because playstation has always had the most rpgs and right now 360 has more. He enjoys rubbing that in ps fan's faces.

Not at all.  I just love playing those RPG's so much that it's always a bit of a shock to get back to the computer and realize my fellow gamers and Sony fans didn't share that pleasure.

Oh wait, whoops! 

 


We all know those games are coming to the PC soon :)

What were the top holydays titles on the 360 ?

Halo 3, Bioshock, Mass Effect.

1 is on the PC already ( for 30$ by the way), another is coming there soon ( 50$ for Mass Effect +DLC compared to 70$ on the 360).

You were saying ? 

 

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

hmm according to my calculations its 66 weeks not 3 years. As the ps3 has more AAA games this year, its very likely that it will get a boost in sales. I did some calculations based on the vgchartz from april the 5th. So the numbers are a bit off.

So if we estimate the ps3 to sell around 186 000 per week and total sales is 11.6mill

And the 360 to sell around 134 000 and total sales is 18.1

186 000/(11.6 *10^6)= 0.015

134000/(18.1*10^6)=0.0075

1.015^x*11.6*10^6=1.0075^x*18.1*10^6

(1.015^x)/(1.0075^x)=(18.1*10^6)/(11.6*10^6)

1.0079^x=1.56034

(log 1.56034)/(log 1.0079)= ca 63-64 weeks

unless i did some mistakes





I get 125 weeks but that is based solely on last weeks sales.

18.1 million + (134,000 * 125) = 34.85 million

11.6 million + (186,000 * 125) = 34.85 million



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Assuming a 200K/month average will hold for the next couple of years (expect that MS will do what it takes to keep the difference from getting out of control...)

Bad assumption. 



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masterb8tr said:
As the ps3 has more AAA games this year, its very likely that it will get a boost in sales.


I count one for each system. MGS4 and Gears 2. Resistance definitely isn't a system seller and Killzone has just as much a chance of sucking as it does being great. If you want to include R2 as a system seller, you then have to toss in Halo Wars for the 360.

While I think MGS will move more consoles than Gears, the PS3 lineup isn't head and shoulders over the 360 and it's going into the holiday season without any massive franchises to push sales.




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rocketpig said:
masterb8tr said:
As the ps3 has more AAA games this year, its very likely that it will get a boost in sales.


I count one for each system. MGS4 and Gears 2. Resistance definitely isn't a system seller and Killzone has just as much a chance of sucking as it does being great. If you want to include R2 as a system seller, you then have to toss in Halo Wars for the 360.

While I think MGS will move more consoles than Gears, the PS3 lineup isn't head and shoulders over the 360 and it's going into the holiday season without any massive franchises to push sales.


How exactly is Gears 2 a system seller too as most of the people that will buy it have Gear 1( and/or Halo 3) and a 360 already ?

I think it would be safe to assume that from now on system sellers on the 360 won't be fps games as the 360 has already an incredible library in that area and most of the gamers that are crazy about Gears 2 or others future fps on the 360 are likely to already have bought it for Gear, Halo 3, Bioshock....

 To sell system you need games with incredible appeal that beats the competition to pieces or games that are in genres that haven't already been exploited to death on said console....( like GTA4 for example)

PS : Doesn't mean Gears 2 won't sell millions but it will be to gamers that already have a 360...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

masterb8tr said:
hmm according to my calculations its 66 weeks not 3 years. As the ps3 has more AAA games this year, its very likely that it will get a boost in sales. I did some calculations based on the vgchartz from april the 5th. So the numbers are a bit off.

So if we estimate the ps3 to sell around 186 000 per week and total sales is 11.6mill

And the 360 to sell around 134 000 and total sales is 18.1

186 000/(11.6 *10^6)= 0.015

134000/(18.1*10^6)=0.0075

1.015^x*11.6*10^6=1.0075^x*18.1*10^6

(1.015^x)/(1.0075^x)=(18.1*10^6)/(11.6*10^6)

1.0079^x=1.56034

(log 1.56034)/(log 1.0079)= ca 63-64 weeks

unless i did some mistakes



WTF? This is simple grade school math... or am I missing something?

186,000/week - PS3

134,000/week - 360

52,000/week - Difference

6,440,000 - LTD difference between PS3 and 360

6,440,000/52,000 per week  = 123 Weeks



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Ail said:
rocketpig said:
masterb8tr said:
As the ps3 has more AAA games this year, its very likely that it will get a boost in sales.


I count one for each system. MGS4 and Gears 2. Resistance definitely isn't a system seller and Killzone has just as much a chance of sucking as it does being great. If you want to include R2 as a system seller, you then have to toss in Halo Wars for the 360.

While I think MGS will move more consoles than Gears, the PS3 lineup isn't head and shoulders over the 360 and it's going into the holiday season without any massive franchises to push sales.


How exactly is Gears 2 a system seller too as most of the people that will buy it have Gear 1 and a 360 already ?


The game recently passed 5m copies. The second one looks to be improved in several ways.

Using your logic, Vice City was not a system seller for the PS2 because GTA III sold well and everybody already bought the system for that game. The same thing could be said for Halo 2.

It just doesn't make sense. Massively popular sequels to games released early in the system's life (and released when the console was much more expensive, to boot) still move consoles if they're good (and Gears looks to be pretty good). 




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I guess if there is no bad news about the PS3, someone has to make some up.

No, I haven't read the whole thread, I have a life, but this is old news. We all know that the PS3 isn't passing the 360 anytime soon, and that both companies have lots of tricks up their sleeves, blah blah blah, etc.

What was the point of this thread? To beat a dead horse? Shame on you, this horse was dead and buried, yet you had to go and dig it up, to beat it some more.

Sjeez.