cleveland124 said: I'm surprised no one has brought up the most important problem with HD off of live. It's that it's not really HD. If the average download it 5.5 gigs and the average movie SD DVD holds 8.5 gigs, that doesn't raise any questions to you? Until HD downloads reach Blu Ray quality I won't care.

Your an absolute gimp. The SD movies for download are 1.7 roughly. MS are are awesome compression. They always have been. Yes it's true HD. File size has nothing to do with HD. It's the information contained within. Aso 6 hours of extra features is why BD films are 15 gig. On the net where I download any HD film to my PC non compressed they are 7 GB. You really have no idea. 

 

^^^

and just because a SD dvd is 8 gigs doesn't mean the movie will be 8 gigs...

selnor said: kingofwale said: selnor said: I havent visited Live movie section since it was introduced around christmas(where they had like 12 films). I just been on at my friends and there is now 66 movies 33 of which are HD. At this rate by end of the year Live will have roughly 200 movies of which 100 would be HD. I cant believe that Transformers in HD in the shops is like £25, and on Live in HD it's like £4. Way to save money. Did anyone else realise there is getting quite alot now? Are you gonna use this service? I will when I get my new Elite in about 4 weeks. Can you watch the movie on Monday and again next week? Can you lend the movie to a friend? Can you take the movie to someone else's place and watch it? Can I pay for the movie and watch it within 10 minutes? Do I have to give up my precious bandwidth? It's like saying Why buy a car for 30,000 dollars when you can rent it for a day for 30 bucks Yeah, "way to save money", no 1. If I had no life I would do that. However my life is better than that. Guess what , this may suprise you but....people with lives watch the same movie more than once *Gasp*  2. No you cant. 3. Yes. The HDD takes 3 secs to detach from 360.  Detatch a whole hard drive lol and that's assuming your friend has an XBOX 360. 4.Yes you can start watching about 5 mins after download start I'm guessing this is dependant on bandwith ,not everyone has a fast connection  5. Your bandwidth is seriously bad. 8mb Unlimited here in Uk is easily affordable. Affordibility is a subjective thing , but the main problem is availibility , I should have 8MB broadband (as that's what my ISP agreed to offer me when I asked for the service) I don't even have half that speed , I live in london not some remote area in the country side. If you look at news you'd have heard reports of ISP's not offering the advertised speeds , i'm guessing for them to do so it would take goverment legislation which would them to invest in providing the advertised speed.

 

 

 

Digital downloads isn't in the interest of the consumer IMO.

 -You don't own the content you pay for.

-You can't resell the content you pay for.

-Whilst i'm downloading movies I can't use my bandwith for anything else.

-XBOX 360 dies , my Digital Downloads disapear with it.

-Call me old school but,A collection of digital downloads isn't as impressive as a collection of physical media .

-No extras (I think)

-Time limt as opposed to the opportunity to watch it infite times.

 

Million said: selnor said: kingofwale said: selnor said: I havent visited Live movie section since it was introduced around christmas(where they had like 12 films). I just been on at my friends and there is now 66 movies 33 of which are HD. At this rate by end of the year Live will have roughly 200 movies of which 100 would be HD. I cant believe that Transformers in HD in the shops is like £25, and on Live in HD it's like £4. Way to save money. Did anyone else realise there is getting quite alot now? Are you gonna use this service? I will when I get my new Elite in about 4 weeks. Can you watch the movie on Monday and again next week? Can you lend the movie to a friend? Can you take the movie to someone else's place and watch it? Can I pay for the movie and watch it within 10 minutes? Do I have to give up my precious bandwidth? It's like saying Why buy a car for 30,000 dollars when you can rent it for a day for 30 bucks Yeah, "way to save money", no 1. If I had no life I would do that. However my life is better than that. Guess what , this may suprise you but....people with lives watch the same movie more than once *Gasp* 2. No you cant. 3. Yes. The HDD takes 3 secs to detach from 360. Detatch a whole hard drive lol and that's assuming your friend has an XBOX 360. 4.Yes you can start watching about 5 mins after download start I'm guessing this is dependant on bandwith ,not everyone has a fast connection 5. Your bandwidth is seriously bad. 8mb Unlimited here in Uk is easily affordable. Affordibility is a subjective thing , but the main problem is availibility , I should have 8MB broadband (as that's what my ISP agreed to offer me when I asked for the service) I don't even have half that speed , I live in london not some remote area in the country side. If you look at news you'd have heard reports of ISP's not offering the advertised speeds , i'm guessing for them to do so it would take goverment legislation which would them to invest in providing the advertised speed.     Digital downloads isn't in the interest of the consumer IMO. -You don't own the content you pay for. -You can't resell the content you pay for. -Whilst i'm downloading movies I can't use my bandwith for anything else. -XBOX 360 dies , my Digital Downloads disapear with it. -Call me old school but,A collection of digital downloads isn't as impressive as a collection of physical media . -No extras (I think) -Time limt as opposed to the opportunity to watch it infite times.

1.My point to number 1 was twice in 7 days I have better things to do.2.Why resell it costs about £43.I download on PC alot and play WOW at same time.4.360 dies. HDD has always stayed intact.5.Personal preference 6. your correct7.your correct. Obviously You get the absolute experience at the moment on Disc. But this is certainly a great start for Console downloads. However I will not get Any HD Player for the reason that I can if I want Legally download an entire HD film with or without extras for alot less cost and stream it. And its for keeps. 

 

FaRmLaNd said: Digital distribution makes sense form a content creators perspective. They don't need to press the physical media, they don't need to ship it, they're under no obligation to create loads of extra content. Its makes more sense from a creators point of view then a consumers. The overarching philosophy being make more money by doing less.

QFG [quoted for garbage]

Really?! This is what i call tunnel vision. The last time i checked DD would also benefit the consumer as well from the spin-off effect of the reasons you listed. Reduced manufacturing and operational cost, would result in cheaper games as the saving would be passed along. Also how could you forget the impact it would have on the environment. With all the talk today on "going green" one would think you'd consider the resources put in to manufacture instruction manuals and disc cases. Both of these processes directly contribute to ozone depletion.

In case anyone doesn't know this by now i'm am a huge proponent for Digital Distribution [more an environmentalist though], to me, the sooner it becomes the the standard the better.

I download movies all the time on Live. Sometimes I'm home and bored I rent a movie and watch it with no problems. I like this feature a lot, it's like going to blockbuster with out doing anything.

I also have downloaded a lot of T.V. programs like southpark and a lot of diffrenet anime like the Gyver series in which I do keep and is not a rental. So this works out really well on what I need.

@Krunsik Lol @ QFG I gota used that some time.

I've only downloaded couple of movies.
it's a great thing to have available when i just want to see a movie in the middle of the night.
I usually don't buy dvds cause I don't watch same movies over and over again.

Rental vs. ownership. I've rented one movie so far and some Lost episodes.

I don't see the point in this as you rent movies (HD ones too) from Netflix for a nominal monthly fee.

well I have netflix I also use netflix online and I do DL movies from XBL.... I mostly DL SD because I do that usually late at night and want to see it fast... but for a couple movies I really want to enjoy or worth taking advantage of my sound system and my HD tv... I haven't found anything better than BR and HD on XBL.... I don't have a BR player... so I'm down to pay 4 bucks or something for that...
I think it's a great service... but that's because of the way I use it... I can see the point of other too... and I think it can be greatly improved.... I'm sure MS is going in that direction anyway.... so my verdict is XBL is great thinking it's 3 years old and will get only better.... IMO of course...