xD the PS3 isn't maxed out at all :P Kojima maxed the ps3 "to the best of his knowledge" and seeing as how this is his first PS3 game, I'd say that knowledge isn't that high up there yet ;)

Because the 360 is so much easier to program for, we'll see that maxed out well before we see the PS3 pushed to limit. Was gears of war the max Selnor? :P

Kojima is only unhappy with the graphics?

I don't think anyone was expecting Crysis graphics from this....MGS is all about gameplay and Kojima is happy with the gameplay.

Anyway, i think the graphics look great.

Somehow, I doubt the PS4 or XBox 720 would have enough power for Kojima's vision of MGS4.

 I love Itagaki.

Itagaki>Kojima

im pretty sure this was miss quoted or something. the ps3 or the 360 have not been pushed to there limits yet, the developers tools have just been pushed to the limits. look at the ps2, the games are still looking better each and every game, the developers will find ways to find and use more power of the systems. maybe he should have had a bigger team or something, i wouldnt blame the ps3's hardware for not meeting his standards. agree or disagree?

Probably because he'd raise his expectations again and include more ideas to try out.

Who cares about graphics and gameplay anyway. As long as the story is amazing, MGS4 will be amazing. The game has 6 hours of cinematics, 2 hours more than any MGS game before it. It will be amazing,

I said the same thing on page one of this thread. They aren't listening Ckmlb. Kojima is very predictable. Every MGS game is his last, and his vision is never achieved because the hardware isn't as powerful as he had hoped.

There are many cases when an artist is not happy with their own work as it does not replicate what they see in their mind. This is no different, I'm guessing.