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shikamaru317 said:
aTokenYeti said:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/phil-spencer-microsoft-subsidizes-the-cost-of-xbox-consoles-to-the-tune-of-100-to-200-per-console.648738/

I thought this was interesting. Microsoft claims they lose about $100-$200 per console sold this generation

I find it strange that Series X would be selling at a loss still 2 years after launch. Sony claimed it's more expensive disc drive PS5 hit break even point more than a year ago, and while Series X has a larger chipset than PS5, increasing silicon costs, as well as a more expensive split motherboard and probably slightly more expensive RAM, Series X should also have a cheaper SSD, a cheaper controller, and a cheaper cooling system than PS5. A year later you would expect Series X to also have broken even just like PS5 did. 

A loss on Series S is less surprising, but a $100 loss on it still 2 years after launch seems way too much. Afterall, it's chipset is nearly half the size of the Series X chipset, substantially reducing silicon costs, it has a cheaper regular motherboard, it has half the SSD size, and it has 6 GB less RAM and slower RAM.

There is a corporate lawyer on youtube named Richard Hoeg who has actually explained how this works, but the tl;dr is that you cant actually make definitive statements about cost comparisons between each manufacturer without knowing how each company conducts their internal accounting, which is different from company to company. The PS5 and the Xbox Series X could hypothetically cost the exact same amount to develop, manufacture, and distribute, but both companies could report wildly different degrees of profitability based on internal accounting methods. I classical example of this is so called "Hollywood accounting", whereby films that make millions or even billions of dollars can be marked down as having incurred substantial losses for tax purposes.



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Exclusive Interview with Phil Spencer from Xbox! - YouTube

00:00 - Intro Special Guest 00:43 - Xbox Series S Easter Egg 01:46 - Rivian Podcast to Come 02:24 - 2nd Anniversary Xbox Series X|S Launch 02:40 - COVID Impact on Industry 04:23 - Gamepass Growth 06:01 - Xbox Play Anywhere 07:06 - Microsoft Collabs 07:48 - CoD Impressions 09:55 - Games Currently Playing 12:58 - Halo X Haworth 13:49 - Minecraft X Burberry 14:51 - Surface Tour 16:34 - Custom Elite Controllers 20:23 - Future of Xbox 23:11 - New Generation, New Way to Play 24:25 - Taking Criticism and Feedback 26:49 - Activision Deal 31:21 - Phil's Favorite Snack 33:27 - Forza Horizon & Motorsport Thoughts 35:22 - What Phil's Most Excited For 37:28 - Travel and Connecting in Person 40:01 - Phil's Message to the Fans 42:11 - Outro/Phil and Panos Fall Guys Night







"Xbox has been an absolute dream to work with. They have been very supportive in their efforts to help us market High on Life and have completely stayed out of any development of the game. This is what we like to call "the perfect partner" around here.

High On Life Dev: Xbox Has Been 'An Absolute Dream' To Work With - Xbox News



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Today I found out that the articles from Deal Reporter (a site about business intelligence and news in merger and acquisitions) became public in the last few weeks. Those articles where the first ones to talk about the merger review in the European Commission and Jim Ryan visiting Brussels in early September.

The thing is that the original articles (from mid and late September) had way more info that the one reported by Seeking Alpha:

- Most of the key issues had been covered during prenotification with the EC: The parties' impression is that there is not much more to discuss with the case team, this source said. "A lot has been discussed".

- The EC had not singled out major concerns and the EC's review was not expected to mirror the one from the CMA because for example the EC didn’t appeared interested in honing in on cloud gaming.

- The CMA was always destined to go to Phase II with the transaction, according to internal sources.

- Agencies in general were delivering an enormous amount of scrutiny. The CMA was the less flexible one and had become even isolated, the source said. In fact, discussing behavioural remedies with the CMA had become complicated.

- MS believed that the CMA was way too speculative regarding the second theory of harm (MS leveraging its assets in other business areas like Azure and Windows).

Jim Ryan met with EC officials on September 8th, following his public criticism of the transaction.

Sony had been working with economic consultants to present evidence to substantiate its foreclosure concerns.

- Agreements for access to publisher content in the sector are usually short-term, often up to a year, and intended for parties to be able to withdraw from quickly. That‘s why MS believed that offering 3 years went beyond the standard.

Google made a submission to Brazilian agency CADE as part of its review of the deal in which it flagged Call of Duty, World of Warcraft, Overwatch and Diablo as games that do not have any close competitors (unless this was a redacted comment, it contradicts what was shared publicly).

The full picture is way more interesting: the CMA doesn’t seem to care about behavioural remedies (COD 10 years on PlayStation, for example) but they are isolating themselves (in relation to other regulators) with their views.

After reading that, my guess is that MS is expecting to get clearance during Phase 1 with the European Commission. If they do that, that would pressure the CMA quite a bit because the European and UK markets are very similar, so, how would the CMA justify such a different outcome without any obvious horizontal issues in the local market?

However, sources from Reuters said that the EC was expected to go to Phase 2.

Well, just a few more days to find out what happens with Europe.

Source: Idas



ice said:
gtotheunit91 said:

Today is Sunset Overdrive’s 8th anniversary. What a shame the game didn’t get the love it deserved…..

Sunset Overdrive was the reason I got an xbox one (and MCC to an extent) 

I still remember fondly the days when @Spade called me Fizzie, now he just calls me tubby :sob:

If somehow you STILL haven't played SO, you owe yourself to check out one of the few gems the dark xbox era produced

Fun times  




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Beat what could be my all time favorite game


Can't wait for P4G and P3. Really hope the P3 remake is real as well. Really excited to compare the other two to see which I like the most. Time for some new game plus content. 

Would love to see P6 feature adults, or even college students. While this game has extremely dark themes at times, I feel HS does limit some of the creativity. Not going to go into a full on review, but story, characters, art style, music, themes were all very well done. Some criticism with pacing in the beginning and some towards the later half of the game. Love the new extras compared to vanilla as well. 

Really hope Sarah and Phil can get the sequel on Game pass as well. Persona no longer needs to be exclusive. 

Further history with P5. Interesting to see my times match up for Royal! Easy completion for 1K as well compared to Vanilla.There are missables with one confidant, but you have plenty of time to do it and the game warns you, so it's like you have to go out of your way to not do it. 

This song is a BOP. 



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Spade said:
ice said:

Sunset Overdrive was the reason I got an xbox one (and MCC to an extent) 

I still remember fondly the days when @Spade called me Fizzie, now he just calls me tubby :sob:

If somehow you STILL haven't played SO, you owe yourself to check out one of the few gems the dark xbox era produced

Fun times  


SO was the reason I went from the OG Xbone to the white Xbone that was bundled with SO worth it!!! 



Bruh. Just another short clip, Lol. Ooof.