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JRPGfan said:
Looks almost like it could run on a 3ds.... without to many compromises to graphics.
I know thats not a major factor in a platformer, but shouldnt they aim higher?

Like for its time Donkey Kong Country games looked outstanding, and still do.
Ori and the blind forest is simularly visually a treat.

This was made for the Switch right? like they should up their ambitions abit.

You're expecting a bit much from WayForward and the comparisons you're using are not really fair to them or Shantae.

Donkey Kong Country is a 1st party Nintendo franchise, (A Tier back in the SNES era).

Ori was a joint project between Moon Studios and Microsoft serving as publisher.

WayForward develops and publishes Shantae all on their own.

Being a small developer like they are and relying on only themselves is a tough gig. Half Genie Hero was funded via Kickstarter, which was a considerable leap in graphics from Pirate's Curse. Their resources are limited. Less than what Moon Studios has with Microsoft supporting them and far less than Nintendo. They can't really afford to put any system to the test and be too ambitious. Seven Sirens looks to be an upscaled/polished Half Genie Hero which works perfectly for them because they already have the assets and engine built from that game, so half the work is done and they can make a lot more money off of it and use it to grow. Then who knows, if that keeps it and with enough time, we may start seeing WayForward up their ante and get more ambitious.



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Hope it's more like Pirate's Curse and less like Half-Genie Hero. Was slightly disappointed with the latter. Game was still good but expected more with all the money they got from their Kickstarter campaign. The DLC was pretty meh as well.



PAOerfulone said:
JRPGfan said:
Looks almost like it could run on a 3ds.... without to many compromises to graphics.
I know thats not a major factor in a platformer, but shouldnt they aim higher?

Like for its time Donkey Kong Country games looked outstanding, and still do.
Ori and the blind forest is simularly visually a treat.

This was made for the Switch right? like they should up their ambitions abit.

You're expecting a bit much from WayForward and the comparisons you're using are not really fair to them or Shantae.

Donkey Kong Country is a 1st party Nintendo franchise, (A Tier back in the SNES era).

Ori was a joint project between Moon Studios and Microsoft serving as publisher.

WayForward develops and publishes Shantae all on their own.

Being a small developer like they are and relying on only themselves is a tough gig. Half Genie Hero was funded via Kickstarter, which was a considerable leap in graphics from Pirate's Curse. Their resources are limited. Less than what Moon Studios has with Microsoft supporting them and far less than Nintendo. They can't really afford to put any system to the test and be too ambitious. Seven Sirens looks to be an upscaled/polished Half Genie Hero which works perfectly for them because they already have the assets and engine built from that game, so half the work is done and they can make a lot more money off of it and use it to grow. Then who knows, if that keeps it and with enough time, we may start seeing WayForward up their ante and get more ambitious.

^This.



PAOerfulone said:
JRPGfan said:
Looks almost like it could run on a 3ds.... without to many compromises to graphics.
I know thats not a major factor in a platformer, but shouldnt they aim higher?

Like for its time Donkey Kong Country games looked outstanding, and still do.
Ori and the blind forest is simularly visually a treat.

This was made for the Switch right? like they should up their ambitions abit.

You're expecting a bit much from WayForward and the comparisons you're using are not really fair to them or Shantae.

Donkey Kong Country is a 1st party Nintendo franchise, (A Tier back in the SNES era).

Ori was a joint project between Moon Studios and Microsoft serving as publisher.

WayForward develops and publishes Shantae all on their own.

Being a small developer like they are and relying on only themselves is a tough gig. Half Genie Hero was funded via Kickstarter, which was a considerable leap in graphics from Pirate's Curse. Their resources are limited. Less than what Moon Studios has with Microsoft supporting them and far less than Nintendo. They can't really afford to put any system to the test and be too ambitious. Seven Sirens looks to be an upscaled/polished Half Genie Hero which works perfectly for them because they already have the assets and engine built from that game, so half the work is done and they can make a lot more money off of it and use it to grow. Then who knows, if that keeps it and with enough time, we may start seeing WayForward up their ante and get more ambitious.

Yeah... that explains it.

I'd like to see someone buy these guys, and give them a big bag of money and just be like "let your imaginations run wild, and wow us".
Its probably not a lack of talent, but of time & money.



JRPGfan said:
PAOerfulone said:

You're expecting a bit much from WayForward and the comparisons you're using are not really fair to them or Shantae.

Donkey Kong Country is a 1st party Nintendo franchise, (A Tier back in the SNES era).

Ori was a joint project between Moon Studios and Microsoft serving as publisher.

WayForward develops and publishes Shantae all on their own.

Being a small developer like they are and relying on only themselves is a tough gig. Half Genie Hero was funded via Kickstarter, which was a considerable leap in graphics from Pirate's Curse. Their resources are limited. Less than what Moon Studios has with Microsoft supporting them and far less than Nintendo. They can't really afford to put any system to the test and be too ambitious. Seven Sirens looks to be an upscaled/polished Half Genie Hero which works perfectly for them because they already have the assets and engine built from that game, so half the work is done and they can make a lot more money off of it and use it to grow. Then who knows, if that keeps it and with enough time, we may start seeing WayForward up their ante and get more ambitious.

Yeah... that explains it.

I'd like to see someone buy these guys, and give them a big bag of money and just be like "let your imaginations run wild, and wow us".
Its probably not a lack of talent, but of time & money.

Do you realize how horribly wrong that could go?



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CaptainExplosion said:
JRPGfan said:

Yeah... that explains it.

I'd like to see someone buy these guys, and give them a big bag of money and just be like "let your imaginations run wild, and wow us".
Its probably not a lack of talent, but of time & money.

Do you realize how horribly wrong that could go?

Probably not the smartest bussiness investment..... It would be a gamble instead of a sure thing.
Which is why its unlikely to happend.



JRPGfan said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Do you realize how horribly wrong that could go?

Probably not the smartest bussiness investment..... It would be a gamble instead of a sure thing.
Which is why its unlikely to happend.

Which is why it shouldn't happen.

Also, I just noticed in the video that Shantae still dances, but she's not dancing to transform, even when she gets the Newt Medallion. Maybe dancing has a different function in this game than the last ones.



I'm so glad they've gone back to the dungeons of the old games. I loved the art style of Half-Genie Hero, but the game design was a huge step backwards. Hopefully this one will be the best of both worlds!



Maybe in this game we'll finally get a confirmation on Shantae's age, putting that whole DeviantArt debacle to rest.



CaptainExplosion said:

Maybe in this game we'll finally get a confirmation on Shantae's age, putting that whole DeviantArt debacle to rest.

Let me guess, the age thing?.

I'm amused at the age argument, because if you put an age on a fictional character, they would also have to be applied to the laws of time itself, rather than excused for another 5 thousand years, where our descendants still mutter the same age, as if the character hasn't aged a day, because that's not how time works, and I implore others who think that way to seek mental assistance.