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MrWayne on 02 June 2019
RolStoppable said:
MrWayne said:

then shouldn't lesbians be also banned from women's restrooms?

Nope. A person of your own sex taking an unwanted look at your parts may be a weird and possibly uncomfortable moment, but it's not the same as an unwanted look from the opposite sex.

When you are in a public restroom and stand at an urinal as a man and another man next to you takes a short look at what you have, it's not even something where you would conclude that he has to be gay. (Sidenote: I haven't come across any stories that gay men shouldn't be allowed in men's restrooms.) But if a woman walked into the room and checked the men at the urinals, it would be a very different situation. For added effect, imagine that this hypothetical woman is unattractive.

Now you appropriately reverse the situation for the women's restroom and it should be easy to tell why lesbians aren't a problem while men are.

Ok maybe you're right, maybe you're less concerned with voyeurs of your own sex but by that logic trans women should go to the women's restroom because you know they look more like a women than a men.

btw I once heard that one of the most used urinal designs was made by a french artist, he made the little barriers between the urinals exactly so high that he could still see the other men's penis.



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Eagle367 on 02 June 2019

It's the thing I pay no attention to anymore. I only care about the biological sex. So you're either man, woman, tran man or trans woman. That's it. So if you go through a sex change operation or are transsexual then that's the only distinction I see. I use pronouns based on biological sex and I've given up on trying to even talk about gender. He and she are the only individual hi,an pronouns I use and they if I don't know the sex of the person. I won't get into the stupid 70+ genders nonsense



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MrWayne on 02 June 2019
RolStoppable said:
MrWayne said:

Ok maybe you're right, maybe you're less concerned with voyeurs of your own sex but by that logic trans women should go to the women's restroom because you know they look more like a women than a men.

btw I once heard that one of the most used urinal designs was made by a french artist, he made the little barriers between the urinals exactly so high that he could still see the other men's penis.

This particular string of this thread was about a student who did nothing more (or not much more) than claim that he considers himself female and people around him aren't even sure if he's serious about it. Of course there are cases where it's much more complicated to draw the line, but in this particular case I would say that the guy should go to the boys' restroom.

I don't doubt the validity of the history of urinals.

Well i guess time will tell if he was serious. Going be clothes would be a good rule of thumb in such cases, dress like a girl, go to the girls restroom if you like, dress like a guy, go to the boy's restroom if you like



o_O.Q on 02 June 2019
MrWayne said:
RolStoppable said:

This particular string of this thread was about a student who did nothing more (or not much more) than claim that he considers himself female and people around him aren't even sure if he's serious about it. Of course there are cases where it's much more complicated to draw the line, but in this particular case I would say that the guy should go to the boys' restroom.

I don't doubt the validity of the history of urinals.

Well i guess time will tell if he was serious. Going be clothes would be a good rule of thumb in such cases, dress like a girl, go to the girls restroom if you like, dress like a guy, go to the boy's restroom if you like

so for you clothes determine who is man and who is woman? would that be a fair conclusion?



JRPGfan on 02 June 2019
Cobretti2 said:
OR WE CAN GO WITH THIS


Woman: A person born as a female, and who identifies as female.

Man: A person born as a male, and who identifies as a male.

Transgender Man: A person who was assigned female at birth, but now identifies as a man. Some trans people choose to undergo gender reassignment surgery. Others prefer not to, but still identify as a different gender.

Transgender Woman: A person who was assigned male at birth, but who identifies as a woman. As above, some trans people choose to undergo gender reassignment surgery. Others prefer not to, but still identify as a different gender.

Trans person: This can mean transsexual or transgender. A transsexual is a person who emotionally and psychologically feels that they belong to the opposite sex.

Trans Man: A trans man is someone who was assigned female at birth, but now identifies as a man.

Trans Woman: A person who was assigned male at birth, but who identifies as a woman

Female to Male: This term is often abbreviated to ‘FTM’ and refers to a transsexual or a transgender man.

Male to Female: This term is often abbreviated to ‘FTM’ and refers to a transsexual or a transgender female.

Transsexual: A person who emotionally and psychologically feels that they belong to the opposite sex. Transsexuals are people who transition from one sex to another, usually through dress, hormone therapy, etc.

Cisgender: A person who identifies with the gender of which they were born. For example, if someone is born as a female and identifies as a woman.

Cis Female: Cis is short for cisgender. So a cisgender female is a female who identifies as a woman.

Cis Male: Cis is short for cisgender. A cisgender male is a male who identifies as a man.

Gender Non-Conforming: A person who does not identify with either the male of female genders.

None Gender: A person who does not identify with any gender in particular.

Non-Binary: A person who does not identify entirely with either the female or male genders. They may identify somewhere on a spectrum.

Neutrois: Neutrois is a non-binary gender identity which is considered to be a neutral or null gender.

Genderfluid: A person who does not identify entirely with either the female or male genders. Genderqueer: An overarching term used to describe people who do not identify exclusively as either male or female.

Demigender: This term, (demi means half) is an umbrella term for nonbinary gender identities that have a partial connection to a certain gender.

Demigirl: A person (can also be called a demiwoman or a demifemale) who identifies partially with being a woman or has feminine characteristics. They may have been assigned female as birth, but they could also have been born as a male.

Demiboy: A person (can also be called a demiman or demimale) who identifies partially with being a man or masculine characteristics. They may have been assigned male at birth, but they could also have been born as a female.

Agender: This literally means ‘without gender’, so a person who doesn’t identify with any gender.

Intergender: Intergender people have a gender identity that is in the middle between the binary genders of female and male, and may be a mix of both.

Intersex: A person who is born with the reproductive anatomy of both a man and a woman. For example, they might appear to be female on the outside, but have mostly male-typical anatomy on the inside. These people were previously referred to as hermaphrodites, but that term is considered rude and outdated.

Pangender: A person who identifies as more than one gender.

Poligender: Translates to ‘many genders’. A person who identifies as more than one gender.

Omnigender: Translates to ‘all genders’. A person who identifies as more than one gender.

Bigender: Translates to ‘two genders’. A person who identifies as both male and female genders. Some bigender people have two distinct male and female personas.

Androgyne: A person who doesn’t identify with either gender. They are both feminine and masculine.

Androgyny: The combination of masculine and feminine characteristics. Androgyny can apply to many things - someone’s gender identity, sexual identity, and even fashion.

Third Gender: People who identify as neither a man nor a woman. Some cultures refer to some of their people by a third gender. For example, in Samoafa’afafines are male at birth, but if a family had more boys than girls and needed more women to help with housework, they male children would be raised as a fa’afafine.

Trigender: Translates to three genders. A person who shifts between the male, female and third genders.


https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2016/07/explained-the-33-gender-identities-recognised-by-the-2016-australian-sex-survey/

kirby007 said:
Gender is whateverr you want it to be

Lul

Your right.... if we need 30+ ways to lable whatever the heck a person is, out of the 2 genders, something has gone wrong somewhere.



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MrWayne on 02 June 2019
o_O.Q said:
MrWayne said:

Well i guess time will tell if he was serious. Going be clothes would be a good rule of thumb in such cases, dress like a girl, go to the girls restroom if you like, dress like a guy, go to the boy's restroom if you like

so for you clothes determine who is man and who is woman? would that be a fair conclusion?

Most transgender persons I've seen or met dress very cliche masculin or cliche feminine, so yes this rule of thumb will probably cover 90%.



Kuksenkov on 02 June 2019

As a bisexual individual, I'm supposed to be part of this LFBTQJXBEKUV+ "community", but I personally believe that the entire gender talk is ridiculous.

I will never understand "genderfluid" individuals who fluctuate between genders depending on how they are feeling. Nor will I ever understand those who utilize "they/them/their" pronouns when referring to themselves. These kind of people are struggling to love themselves and the bodies they were born with, and as a result all these bullshit of "I feel like a man today, but maybe in 10 minutes from now I'll be a woman. Tomorrow I am multiple genders at once, and next month I'll identify as a hydra from ancient mythology because I CAN and I FEEL THAY WAY, so you should address and acknowledge me as a monster from ancient mythology if I feel like one".

No, there is three options: Man/Woman/Other (please specify).



ArchangelMadzz on 02 June 2019

I don't think Gender is a thing.

We have biological sex's. Men and Women and there are intersex disorders.
Men and Women have biological traits that make certain personality traits that can be generalised but not 100%

Personalities are a spectrum.

I'm not a Male because I 'feel' like a male, I don't even know what that means. I have a personality and traits that's me and I am a biological Man.



There's only 2 races: White and 'Political Agenda'
2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

d21lewis on 02 June 2019

You guys break the thread? I can't see the last page.



Cobretti2 on 02 June 2019

What about the people that are born with a penis and ovaries, where do they fit in?