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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 15 December 2018

colafitte on 10 January 2019
PortisheadBiscuit said:

People are only calling Switch a handheld because its competing well against PS4/XB1. If Switch was doing Wii U like numbers the narrative would be "see look Nintendo tried to compete in the home console market with a gimmick and failed again".

In my case, i always thought, since its annoucement, that Switch was a handheld with extras to work as a home console too for me. To me, you're putting words in mouth's people that you can't proof and that's unfair.



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PortisheadBiscuit on 10 January 2019
colafitte said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

People are only calling Switch a handheld because its competing well against PS4/XB1. If Switch was doing Wii U like numbers the narrative would be "see look Nintendo tried to compete in the home console market with a gimmick and failed again".

In my case, i always thought, since its annoucement, that Switch was a handheld with extras to work as a home console too for me. To me, you're putting words in mouth's people that you can't proof and that's unfair.

Oh well, this thread is full of whataboutisms anyway. Just par for the course



Intrinsic on 10 January 2019
drinkandswim said:

In that case on VG chartz approx 14.5 million as of Dec 15th for Switch
Week end Dec 22nd 2 million
Week end Dec 30th 800k
Total Sold 17.3 million

Just know that sold t consumer numbers will always be around 1.5M to 2M lower than shipped numbers. 



colafitte on 10 January 2019
PortisheadBiscuit said:
colafitte said:

In my case, i always thought, since its annoucement, that Switch was a handheld with extras to work as a home console too for me. To me, you're putting words in mouth's people that you can't proof and that's unfair.

Oh well, this thread is full of whataboutisms anyway. Just par for the course

But your comments goes after the poster, not against their argument. It's personal and it shouldn't be. You're accusing people of being jealous and that's is as incendiary as derailing the thread.



drinkandswim on 10 January 2019
Intrinsic said:
drinkandswim said:

In that case on VG chartz approx 14.5 million as of Dec 15th for Switch
Week end Dec 22nd 2 million
Week end Dec 30th 800k
Total Sold 17.3 million

Just know that sold t consumer numbers will always be around 1.5M to 2M lower than shipped numbers. 

okay that is good to know thank you!



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Mbolibombo on 10 January 2019

This deadbeat topic is still alive and kicking days later..



colafitte on 10 January 2019
drinkandswim said:
colafitte said:

I expect 2'5-3M in my case... so we'll see what happens. 

 

Well, i have to go to bed, way late for me here. I wish this info helps you discuss better with anybody here about sales. 

2.5M-3M for the quarter? I can see 2 million in January. 

You have to remember that there's a lot of stock left from the year before, so you have to sell that first. 

And 2M in January is a lot, i don't even know if prime Wii or prime PS2 were able to do that.

drinkandswim said:
Intrinsic said:

Just know that sold t consumer numbers will always be around 1.5M to 2M lower than shipped numbers. 

okay that is good to know thank you!

PS4 even reached 3'7M on shelves 2 years ago and 3M last year.



MasonADC on 10 January 2019

I’m seriously lost in all of this arguing. What’s the issue with calling the switch a home console AND a handheld?



zorg1000 on 10 January 2019
0D0 said:
colafitte said:

If there is a post saying Switch success this week doesn't count compared to PS4 and XBO because is not a home console, then you're right (i did not read every post, but what i read i did not find anything like that, so if i missed it, then i'm sorry).

But what i said is still true, these threads are the ones that attract more people here each week (and even more in holiday season) and many posters want to add something related to sales that not exist in other threads (and don't want to create a thread or don't know how to do it just for that comment).

In short, if someone here said, "Switch success is irrelevant because it's not a home console like PS4 or XBO, so in reality the mighty PS4 is the winner" or something similar like you protest, you are right and you should report the post to mods if you consider it necessary. If not, let the mods decide.

Why a statement like that would have to be reported?

It sounds like a stupid statement, but it's not personally offensive or racist or hate speech of sorts.

 

zorg1000 said:

Well ya of course the hardware is in the portable part and has to use a CPU that can be used with a portable form factor.........you couldnt use it portably if it didn't which would no longer make it a hybrid, that's just common sense.

And there is no such thing as a tablet CPU, there are CPUs that can be used in tablets but that doesnt make it a tablet CPU. The form factor of the device is what determines if something is a tablet, PC, console, handheld, etc. not the CPU.

The Tegra line is also used in self-driving cars, they are not tablets because of that, they are still cars.

When you say portable part you mean the entire useful part, because the rest of it is just plastic and cables to make the "portable part" elegantly connect to a TV

Again, if the hardware was inside the dock instead of the handheld component than it would not be able to function as a hybrid, it would be a fully stationary device or something like Wii U where you could only play within 20-30 feet of the base unit.

In order to make something a full-fledged hybrid, it needs to have the ability to be fully portable which is only possible if the hardware is in the portable component.

And no it's not just plastic/cables to make portable part connect to TV. It has increased performance when docked, comes with a fully functioning console controller and it plays console games, not like Gameboy Player or Vita which just let you play your handheld games on a TV.



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Mbolibombo on 10 January 2019
MasonADC said:
I’m seriously lost in all of this arguing. What’s the issue with calling the switch a home console AND a handheld?

Dont bother, it's back and forth arguing the same arguments as the last 2 years of it's existance.