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pokoko on 03 August 2018
Smartie900 said:
pokoko said:

It's actually the opposite of that. 

Everything we've heard has been coated with excuses.  It was just satire, it was just counter-trolling, it was just humor.  She was just mimicking others.  It was because people were being mean online.  She thought it was okay because she just wanted to hurt some people with her generalized insults--which is like setting off a bomb and then using the excuse that you just wanted to blow up a few of the victims, not all of them.

The only part that sounds like an apology is "I can understand how hurtful these posts are" but then she modifies that with another excuse, that her comments are "out of context," even though there exists no context that would make what she said okay.

That's not an apology at all. 

The only thing she seems to regret is that she has to show a bit of regret.  It's like a petulant child blaming everything except themselves when they get caught doing something wrong.

I am disappointed by her attempts to humanize herself, but she still recognizes that what she did was wrong and promises not to do it again. Whether she holds her promise is a topic for another day, but her attempts to contextualize her actions are still supported with a promise for change and growth.

I have no doubt that she won't do it again.  That would be career suicide (well, probably not).  What I doubt, given her non-apology, is her sincerity.  That means I can't trust the integrity of her work.  I see nothing that would indicate to me that she is a different person now, only that she intends to be less obvious about it.  As I said before, I don't care if she is fired or not, but a journalist I can't trust is a journalist that holds no value for me.  That, in turn, goes double for an organization that doesn't appear to respect me. 

As a consumer, it's not my responsibility to give businesses the benefit of the doubt, it's their job to convince me that they are my best option.  In this case, there is no way I can believe that.



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pokoko on 03 August 2018
jason1637 said:
Aura7541 said:

That's not proof. Saying that her tweets were jokes because she said so (after her tweets were discovered, I should add) is not proof. I would like you to prove that her 3 years' worth of those types of tweets were indeed jokes in context.

People were trolling her and she trolled them back by making jokes. I showed you as much proof as I possibly can.

Maybe some of them were just counter-trolling her?  I mean, then it would be okay, right?  



Shaqazooloo0 on 03 August 2018

Woof, that is disgusting!

jason1637 said:
That's really not racost.

Those tweets seem pretty racist to me...



COKTOE on 03 August 2018
Aura7541 said:
jason1637 said:

https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/1025050118989332480?

She was trolling back people that harassed her. I don't know how you can't see that.

Saying that her tweets were jokes because she said so (after her tweets were discovered, I should add) is not proof. I would like you to prove that her 3 years' worth of those types of tweets were indeed jokes in context.

Here, I'll help you out. Here's are all of her tweets dating back to 2013. Now's your chance to show that these tweets were jokes when given the proper context.

That's A LOT. I wondered in a previous post if what was shown in the op was representative of her full output. Ha! Oh my stars and garters. 



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

Aura7541 on 03 August 2018
COKTOE said:

That's A LOT. I wondered in a previous post if what was shown in the op was representative of her full output. Ha! Oh my stars and garters. 

My favorite one is possibly the tweet on the far-left center of this image:



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Nautilus on 03 August 2018

It reads like a parody really.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

pokoko on 04 August 2018
Aura7541 said:

My favorite one is possibly the tweet on the far-left center of this image:

Well, yeah, anyone thinking they can get away with something just by calling it a joke is ... oh, wait.



jason1637 on 04 August 2018

You guys can distinguish what's is real and what are jokes. That's just sad! I'm done with this thread.



forest-spirit on 04 August 2018

I hope she gets a raise.



pokoko on 04 August 2018
jason1637 said:
You guys can distinguish what's is real and what are jokes. That's just sad! I'm done with this thread.

You think "Hispanic people are fucking dumb" is funny?  Does that make you laugh?  What about "Asian people are gross"?  On a scale of 1 to 10, how humorous does that rate?  I want to understand your point of view on this, your opinion is very valuable.  Like, if I said, "you're a fucking idiot," how hard would you laugh?  We talking giggles or pounding-the-table type laughing?