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starcraft on 14 April 2008
Moneybags said:
Actualy, starcraft is a computer generated vgchartz member created by me for satirical purposes. My actions do not seem to be understood or apreciated by other members and they often get upset at my program and take him too seriously. The fact that he is able to bother the members to such a great extent with the arguing skills I programmed in him while being able to gather information at a much faster rate I start to wonder if he is in fact more inteligent then some of these vgchartz' members. With futher testing and observation I will know for certain.


I'm falling in love with the creator.

 



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The_God_of_War on 14 April 2008
starcraft said:
The_God_of_War said:
starcraft said:
The_God_of_War said:
On topic, let's not forget Tears of Blood, LA Noire and the new Rockstar game. I've also heard rumors that Team ICO are developing 2 games: Shadow of the Colossus 2 and an entriely new game.

Also, I haven't been here long but I'm guessing Starcraft is a big 360 fan, correct?

We haven't heard much about LA Noire lately. Last I heard it was rumoured to be going multiplatform. I hope ICO is working on a SotC2, because that would be AWESOME!!!

And yes, I'm a fan, but absolutely not a fanboy. Read back over the thread, and see which side of the argument was logical and measured, and which side was emitting copious amounts of flames.

 

The multiplatform thing was just Surfer Girl specualtion, I heard R* wanted to use up an entire Blu-Ray disc, so I doubt we'll see a 360 version. I've also heard that SotC2 will have a multiplayer mode, if that's true- GOTY 2009 confirmed!

I'd rather stay out of this argument everyone's having but I don't agree with your first comment- GoW3 and FF13 never had 2008 release dates, so technically they aren't really delayed. You also said "Now the games are all coming in 2009" which is hardly true. What about MGS4? Tekken 6? Resistance 2? Motorstorm 2? LBP? SOCOM? PS3 has 2008 won with those games if you ask me. And 2009 is looking equally awesome!

Edit: Also, a new Syphon Filter is coming out next year!

 

HOW DA.......cough...lol.

At the risk of depriving this thread of what little dignity it has left, I will not take up the delaystation issue with you.

We've not seen any real benefit to Blu-Ray so far. By that I mean, there isn't a single example of a comparable (mulitplatform) game being limited by DVD or a third party saying that a game cannot be done on the 360 because Blu-Ray is required. As such, if L.A. Noire remains exclusive, I'm sure it will be for financial reasons (moneyhatting) rather than technical reasons.

But I agree that Sony has a far stronger line-up this year than they did last year, but you only need to check out the 360 exclusives thread to see that Sony is far from "winning" the year.

 

I think PGR4 had some some weather effects or a day/night cycle removed because of DVD limitations and Epic said the 360 version of UT3 would have less maps than the PC version due to space limitations. I'll agree Blu-Ray isn't necessary RIGHT NOW, but one day it will be.

R*'s next 2 games are PS3 exclusive and I've heard rumors that Sony are looking to acquire a new developer. I'm sure you can put 2 and 2 together.

And I also have a 360, so I know exactly what's coming out this year, I just prefer the PS3 line-up. In terms of games, Sony have 2008 won as far as I'm concerned. 

 



  

Rainbird on 14 April 2008
starcraft said:
The_God_of_War said:
 

The multiplatform thing was just Surfer Girl specualtion, I heard R* wanted to use up an entire Blu-Ray disc, so I doubt we'll see a 360 version. I've also heard that SotC2 will have a multiplayer mode, if that's true- GOTY 2009 confirmed!

I'd rather stay out of this argument everyone's having but I don't agree with your first comment- GoW3 and FF13 never had 2008 release dates, so technically they aren't really delayed. You also said "Now the games are all coming in 2009" which is hardly true. What about MGS4? Tekken 6? Resistance 2? Motorstorm 2? LBP? SOCOM? PS3 has 2008 won with those games if you ask me. And 2009 is looking equally awesome!

Edit: Also, a new Syphon Filter is coming out next year!

 

HOW DA.......cough...lol.

At the risk of depriving this thread of what little dignity it has left, I will not take up the delaystation issue with you.

We've not seen any real benefit to Blu-Ray so far.  By that I mean, there isn't a single example of a comparable (mulitplatform) game being limited by DVD or a third party saying that a game cannot be done on the 360 because Blu-Ray is required.  As such, if L.A. Noire remains exclusive, I'm sure it will be for financial reasons (moneyhatting) rather than technical reasons.

But I agree that Sony has a far stronger line-up this year than they did last year, but you only need to check out the 360 exclusives thread to see that Sony is far from "winning" the year.

 


Starcraft, just because we haven't seen any real benefit to the blu-ray yet, doesn't mean developers can't use the blu-ray for what it offers. Afterall, all that extra space can easily lure a developer who knows their vision and can tell that they need this extra space. So if it is true that R* have plans to "fill a BD", it is perfectly reasonable to assume it wont be on the X360.

About the multiplatform games, it's true that they aren't "restricted" by the DVD, but I'm sure that some of the games would have been different on some levels because they weren't restricted by space.

But then again, you can never showcase a console by showing games that are multiplat, because the developers usually strive to make the games look and feel the same on both consoles.

 

EDIT:

The_God_of_War said:
 

I think PGR4 had some some weather effects or a day/night cycle removed because of DVD limitations and Epic said the 360 version of UT3 would have less maps than the PC version due to space limitations. I'll agree Blu-Ray isn't necessary RIGHT NOW, but one day it will be.

R*'s next 2 games are PS3 exclusive and I've heard rumors that Sony are looking to acquire a new developer. I'm sure you can put 2 and 2 together.

And I also have a 360, so I know exactly what's coming out this year, I just prefer the PS3 line-up. In terms of games, Sony have 2008 won as far as I'm concerned. 

 


 Good one about PGR4, I had completely forgot about that!

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/30/bizarre-confirms-pgr4s-cities-comments-on-dvd-constraints/

 



starcraft on 14 April 2008
Rainbird said:
I can honestly say that these threads keep amusing me, thanks guys ;D
Starcraft, it's completely fair that you defend the 360 lineup when it is already being compared to in the thread, in fact, the people who take the bait are the retarded ones here.
I have yet to see a single good argument for why Starcraft isn't right about what he has said so far in this thread, except the Killzone 2 thing, which he has already admitted that he was wrong about. This is where normal people would just put it to rest, so all of you guys who are still trying to make him go away. Shut up and start bringing some real arguments to the thread!

OP:
I think that the '09 release looks great, and even though FF never caught my interest before I think I'll have to give it a go this time, just because of the amazing screens we've seen so far ;)
As someone already pointed out, Insomniac strive to release games on a yearly basis, so that is another potential game to the list.
And this is of course just the way things are now, we don't know what other games are going to be announced yet.

Lol, thanks for watching my back mate.

I'm not super pumped for the main FFXIII game, but Versus has me drooling. 

 



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Moneybags on 14 April 2008
The_God_of_War said:
starcraft said:
The_God_of_War said:
starcraft said:
The_God_of_War said:
On topic, let's not forget Tears of Blood, LA Noire and the new Rockstar game. I've also heard rumors that Team ICO are developing 2 games: Shadow of the Colossus 2 and an entriely new game.

Also, I haven't been here long but I'm guessing Starcraft is a big 360 fan, correct?

We haven't heard much about LA Noire lately. Last I heard it was rumoured to be going multiplatform. I hope ICO is working on a SotC2, because that would be AWESOME!!!

And yes, I'm a fan, but absolutely not a fanboy. Read back over the thread, and see which side of the argument was logical and measured, and which side was emitting copious amounts of flames.

 

The multiplatform thing was just Surfer Girl specualtion, I heard R* wanted to use up an entire Blu-Ray disc, so I doubt we'll see a 360 version. I've also heard that SotC2 will have a multiplayer mode, if that's true- GOTY 2009 confirmed!

I'd rather stay out of this argument everyone's having but I don't agree with your first comment- GoW3 and FF13 never had 2008 release dates, so technically they aren't really delayed. You also said "Now the games are all coming in 2009" which is hardly true. What about MGS4? Tekken 6? Resistance 2? Motorstorm 2? LBP? SOCOM? PS3 has 2008 won with those games if you ask me. And 2009 is looking equally awesome!

Edit: Also, a new Syphon Filter is coming out next year!

 

HOW DA.......cough...lol.

At the risk of depriving this thread of what little dignity it has left, I will not take up the delaystation issue with you.

We've not seen any real benefit to Blu-Ray so far. By that I mean, there isn't a single example of a comparable (mulitplatform) game being limited by DVD or a third party saying that a game cannot be done on the 360 because Blu-Ray is required. As such, if L.A. Noire remains exclusive, I'm sure it will be for financial reasons (moneyhatting) rather than technical reasons.

But I agree that Sony has a far stronger line-up this year than they did last year, but you only need to check out the 360 exclusives thread to see that Sony is far from "winning" the year.

 

I think PGR4 had some some weather effects or a day/night cycle removed because of DVD limitations and Epic said the 360 version of UT3 would have less maps than the PC version due to space limitations. I'll agree Blu-Ray isn't necessary RIGHT NOW, but one day it will be.

R*'s next 2 games are PS3 exclusive and I've heard rumors that Sony are looking to acquire a new developer. I'm sure you can put 2 and 2 together.

And I also have a 360, so I know exactly what's coming out this year, I just prefer the PS3 line-up. In terms of games, Sony have 2008 won as far as I'm concerned. 

 

Actualy... I have not yet programmed starcraft to do that yet as you will soon find out.....

 



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starcraft on 14 April 2008
Rainbird said:
 

Starcraft, just because we haven't seen any real benefit to the blu-ray yet, doesn't mean developers can't use the blu-ray for what it offers. Afterall, all that extra space can easily lure a developer who knows their vision and can tell that they need this extra space. So if it is true that R* have plans to "fill a BD", it is perfectly reasonable to assume it wont be on the X360.

About the multiplatform games, it's true that they aren't "restricted" by the DVD, but I'm sure that some of the games would have been different on some levels because they weren't restricted by space.

But then again, you can never showcase a console by showing games that are multiplat, because the developers usually strive to make the games look and feel the same on both consoles.

 

EDIT:

The_God_of_War said:
 

I think PGR4 had some some weather effects or a day/night cycle removed because of DVD limitations and Epic said the 360 version of UT3 would have less maps than the PC version due to space limitations. I'll agree Blu-Ray isn't necessary RIGHT NOW, but one day it will be.

R*'s next 2 games are PS3 exclusive and I've heard rumors that Sony are looking to acquire a new developer. I'm sure you can put 2 and 2 together.

And I also have a 360, so I know exactly what's coming out this year, I just prefer the PS3 line-up. In terms of games, Sony have 2008 won as far as I'm concerned.

 


Good one about PGR4, I had completely forgot about that!

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/30/bizarre-confirms-pgr4s-cities-comments-on-dvd-constraints/

 

I think so far Blu-Ray's lower read speeds have hindered rather than helped PS3 games.  It is dicussed extensively in this thread:

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=22092

 



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mrpapaye on 14 April 2008

Hello

Gran Turismo and Final Fantasy being the biggest exclusives of the Playstation, 2009 will be clearly a biggest year for the PS3 than 2008, its obvious for anybody with a brain.
Add to this big games like GoD 3 and the possible Ico's Team new game and you really have a big year for the PS3.

Now, i would like to give my support to Starcraft, of course he is fan of the x360 but compared to his contradictors, he clearly is a lot less of a fanboy.  At least, he is polite and gives good and true arguments without flaming other posters in contrary to most of the guys here who attack him.

Bye.



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starcraft on 14 April 2008
Moneybags said:
The_God_of_War said:
starcraft said:
 

 

I think PGR4 had some some weather effects or a day/night cycle removed because of DVD limitations and Epic said the 360 version of UT3 would have less maps than the PC version due to space limitations. I'll agree Blu-Ray isn't necessary RIGHT NOW, but one day it will be.

R*'s next 2 games are PS3 exclusive and I've heard rumors that Sony are looking to acquire a new developer. I'm sure you can put 2 and 2 together.

And I also have a 360, so I know exactly what's coming out this year, I just prefer the PS3 line-up. In terms of games, Sony have 2008 won as far as I'm concerned.

 

Actualy... I have not yet programmed starcraft to do that yet as you will soon find out.....

 

You'll find that the PGR4 comments were a misunderstanding that was later clarified, furthermore, we are yet to see UT3 on the 360.  As a similar reference however, Cod4's game of the year edition includes extra maps on the disc that weren't there earlier for the 360.  In any case, with things like maps the 360 can easily lean on its more developed online service to supplement on-disc content.

Was the 2 exclusive Rockstar games thing actually confirmed?  I was under the impression it was a rather shaky rumour?  Sony will not be aquiring Rockstar though, EA has bid for and will likely get Take Two.

As for your personal opinion on line-ups, I won't argue with it, but I'm glad you rephrased it to emphasise that it is indeed your opinion. 

 



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starcraft on 14 April 2008
mrpapaye said:

Hello

Gran Turismo and Final Fantasy being the biggest exclusives of the Playstation, 2009 will be clearly a biggest year for the PS3 than 2008, its obvious for anybody with a brain.
Add to this big games like GoD 3 and the possible Ico's Team new game and you really have a big year for the PS3.

Now, i would like to give my support to Starcraft, of course he is fan of the x360 but compared to his contradictors, he clearly is a lot less of a fanboy. At least, he is polite and gives good and true arguments without flaming other posters in contrary to most of the guys here who attack him.

Bye.


Thanks mate.  It is good when people like you come in to back me up.  The SDF fanboys have stopped posting now that they no longer get to pick on just one person.

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Rainbird on 14 April 2008
starcraft said:
Rainbird said:
 

Starcraft, just because we haven't seen any real benefit to the blu-ray yet, doesn't mean developers can't use the blu-ray for what it offers. Afterall, all that extra space can easily lure a developer who knows their vision and can tell that they need this extra space. So if it is true that R* have plans to "fill a BD", it is perfectly reasonable to assume it wont be on the X360.

About the multiplatform games, it's true that they aren't "restricted" by the DVD, but I'm sure that some of the games would have been different on some levels because they weren't restricted by space.

But then again, you can never showcase a console by showing games that are multiplat, because the developers usually strive to make the games look and feel the same on both consoles.

 

EDIT:

 

Good one about PGR4, I had completely forgot about that!

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/30/bizarre-confirms-pgr4s-cities-comments-on-dvd-constraints/

 

I think so far Blu-Ray's lower read speeds have hindered rather than helped PS3 games.  It is dicussed extensively in this thread:

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=22092

 


 I still feel convinced that with the right streaming system and placing of files on the BD, the BD drive read speed is not enough to counter a minimum of 25 GB of available space. But this of course only makes sense if you plan to use all that space.