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HappySqurriel on 14 April 2008
Griffin said:
You guys are acting as if Sony has sold no games for the system. The system so far has sold 143million software units to retail. This is for for the date ending December 31, 2007. At that point it had sold 69% of GC total software and 64% of the total N64 software. By the time the PSP stops selling it will of passed both those Nintendo systems.

I'm not sure your numbers are accurate ... Nintendo announced in 2005 that they had published 2 Billion pieces of software worldwide, if the Gamecube and N64 only had (in total) 500,000 pieces of software sold it is unlikely that they would have met that mark.



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GhaleonUnlimited on 14 April 2008

If you ran a race, came in second, and won $500,000 to the winner's $1,500,000, wouldn't it still be a success?



Griffin on 14 April 2008
HappySqurriel said:
Griffin said:
You guys are acting as if Sony has sold no games for the system. The system so far has sold 143million software units to retail. This is for for the date ending December 31, 2007. At that point it had sold 69% of GC total software and 64% of the total N64 software. By the time the PSP stops selling it will of passed both those Nintendo systems.

I'm not sure your numbers are accurate ... Nintendo announced in 2005 that they had published 2 Billion pieces of software worldwide, if the Gamecube and N64 only had (in total) 500,000 pieces of software sold it is unlikely that they would have met that mark.


 The NES sold 500, SNES 379, N64 225, GC 208, GB/GBC 501, GBA 375, DS 331, these are all of December 31, 2007 and come from this thread and were posted by TheSource, http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=23700&start=0 

The PSP numbers come directly from Sony yearly reports. 



HappySqurriel on 14 April 2008
Griffin said:
HappySqurriel said:
Griffin said:
You guys are acting as if Sony has sold no games for the system. The system so far has sold 143million software units to retail. This is for for the date ending December 31, 2007. At that point it had sold 69% of GC total software and 64% of the total N64 software. By the time the PSP stops selling it will of passed both those Nintendo systems.

I'm not sure your numbers are accurate ... Nintendo announced in 2005 that they had published 2 Billion pieces of software worldwide, if the Gamecube and N64 only had (in total) 500,000 pieces of software sold it is unlikely that they would have met that mark.


 The NES sold 500, SNES 379, N64 225, GC 208, GB/GBC 501, GBA 375, DS 331, these are all of December 31, 2007 and come from this thread and were posted by TheSource, http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=23700&start=0 

The PSP numbers come directly from Sony yearly reports. 


Which (probably) means that the Source's numbers are inaccurate because, even if Nintendo was overestimating their software sales, there is no way Nintendo announced that they PUBLISHED 2 Billion units of software on less than 2 Billion total units of software sold on their systems combined.

Outside of Million sellers few games from the NES, SNES, N64, Gameboy, GBA, or even Gamecube had their sales announced (or accurately tracked) in North America and Europe ...

The fact that the PSP has half as many million selling games, with total sales at 1/4 of the Gamecube should be a (very good) indicator that its total game sales are far below the 70% you suggest.



CrazzyMan on 14 April 2008

Compared to Non-Nintendo handhelds - YES.
Compared to Nintendo handhelds - pretty much.

And i believe some great games we will see in 2008-2009, which will more expand psp user-base and have effect on psp2.



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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CaptainPrefrences on 14 April 2008

CrazzyMan

Do you really think developers can trust the PSP2? If sony can make the PSP2 impossible to hack, and it uses some media storage that isnt UMD then yes it could have an effect on teh psp2.

if not the psp will turnout like teh dreamcast



HappySqurriel on 14 April 2008
CaptainPrefrences said:
CrazzyMan

Do you really think developers can trust the PSP2? If sony can make the PSP2 impossible to hack, and it uses some media storage that isnt UMD then yes it could have an effect on teh psp2.

if not the psp will turnout like teh dreamcast

I could be wrong but I suspect the big problem the PSP2 will face when it comes to third party publishers is the argument "It's made by Sony so it will (obviously) be super popular" will be gone ... In my opinion this was the PSP's biggest strength being that third party publishers heavily supported it early on, typically at the expense of the Nintendo DS.

With how successful the DS and Wii are, I'm pretty positive that no third party publisher will ever doubt Nintendo to the level they did with either the DS or Wii ever again.



CaptainPrefrences on 14 April 2008

What are some good first party PSP games.



cwbys21 on 14 April 2008

Developers trust the psp, that is why 58 games will be released for it this year. And it is not like the DS is hard to hack. Someone from ELSPA claimed that 90% of DS users play games that are pirated, they of course retracted that very quickly.
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8923&Itemid=2
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8948&Itemid=2
And this is the R4
http://www.r4ds.com/r4.htm
I believe you just take a flash card with a ds rom on it, insert it into the R4, insert the R4 into the DS and play.



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HappySqurriel on 14 April 2008
cwbys21 said:
Developers trust the psp, that is why 58 games will be released for it this year. And it is not like the DS is hard to hack. Someone from Nintendo claimed that 90% of DS games are pirated, they of course retracted that very quickly.
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8923&Itemid=2
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8948&Itemid=2
And this is the R4
http://www.r4ds.com/r4.htm
I believe you just take a flash card with a ds rom on it, insert it into the R4, insert the R4 into the DS and play.

58 is far from an impressive number when it comes to third party releases ... In the Gamecube's slowest years it was getting around 50 to 100 third party games released for it.