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Mcube said:
DonFerrari said:

Yep. For me HR, B2S and probably Detroit is between 80-90 game perhaps even higher. I really enjoyed the first 2.

Heavy rain is a good game but I think Beyond two souls is still one of the dumbest games I´ve ever played. Just cant get over it it feels like he just made everything up as he went on. Heavy rain is good and Indigo Prophecy is pretty fun aswell. 

I didn't find it dumb, but it done it's job on what it was supposed to do, so no reason for a low score as well.

yvanjean said:
DonFerrari said:

Seems like you ignored your own point on how all reviewers are professional.

And sorry to burst your bubble, but games should be evaluated on what they try to accomplish and not on what you would like them to be. 

And seems like the 2 reviewers that gave GT5 40 and 50 got decomissioned.

But sure, a 40 on a 80 average is impossible to be a troll.

That's what happen if you can't maintain professionalism you get decommissioned. 

I'm not saying they are all professional most of the review writers are young college kids with very little experience.... but the Metascore make their review irrelevant. 

Going back to Detroit: Become Human of the 84 reviews most are from credible source and websites. If someone did not enjoy the game and use a 5 point scale .... 2/5 (40%) isn't trolling it's just a negative review.   Reviewer backed up his score with an article that explain why he din't like it. 80 average isn't there because all reviews should be 80%, it's what the game got from compiling all review score. 

Thanks for backtracking.

Not liking a game isn't the main metric for any score. He is reviewing a game not scoring his enjoyment. Unless you find it acceptable if I would score Halo a 0 because I totally don't like the game.

Mandalore76 said:
DonFerrari said:

So you admit to be fishing using a strawman argument? Where did anyone besides you said any score that is far from average (that for you if 25 or 40 is the same, then 25 to 10 is the same and 10 to 0 as well right?) is troll (you are also the only one talking about fake review). You are the one changing definitions non-stop to try and make an argument stick, and have failed miserably at it.

When you read the review for GTS and see how it is fake you come and use it. Because people here have read the Detroit and show why it's ridiculous.

Are we discussing Angry Joe? Haven't seem his review cited here. And still Detroit wouldn't dwell on below average (also ignore that gaming average have been sitting about 70 as also show to you in other threads).

No problem you watching Jim, just curious why you would watch negative reviews on a game you don't care on a platform you never play. Will you list the PS games you played yet?

He already told you.  There are plenty of people who watch a reviewer's videos (myself included, which is why I'm throwing my 2 cents in here) regardless of what they are playing, because they happen to like the reviewer.  I watched the exact same video, and I have no problem telling you that I don't have a PS4.  I didn't type "find negative reviews on Detroit: Become Human" into the YouTube search bar.  I typed "Jim Sterling", because I happen to like listening to his videos while on lunch break or driving home from work.  If you like the particular reviewer, the content doesn't have to be something you actually intend to play, or sought out, or even agree with for that matter.

Well I am someone that even if I like the person or format of what they do just watch if the content itself holds some interest to me. Otherwise it bores me.

I 'won't go any further because you probably missed the mod warning. Anyway I have no issue with you not having a PS4 or playing its exclusives (or even being in a thread about one), as long as you are clear on it everything is fine.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari said:

yvanjean said:

That's what happen if you can't maintain professionalism you get decommissioned. 

I'm not saying they are all professional most of the review writers are young college kids with very little experience.... but the Metascore make their review irrelevant. 

Going back to Detroit: Become Human of the 84 reviews most are from credible source and websites. If someone did not enjoy the game and use a 5 point scale .... 2/5 (40%) isn't trolling it's just a negative review.   Reviewer backed up his score with an article that explain why he din't like it. 80 average isn't there because all reviews should be 80%, it's what the game got from compiling all review score. 

Thanks for backtracking.

Not liking a game isn't the main metric for any score. He is reviewing a game not scoring his enjoyment. Unless you find it acceptable if I would score Halo a 0 because I totally don't like the game.

Only a moron would give zero to a game that is not completely broken ... but Metacritic has often been criticized for taking 5 point scales review at face value. 

5 point scale which reviews games based on 5- Strongly Satisfied 4 - Somewhat satisfied 3- Neither Satisfied or Dissatisfied 2 - Somewhat Dissatisfied 1- Strongly Dissatisfied result in score of 20% and 40%. The reviewer are not really bashing the game has unplayable but rather their scale is different then the rest of the industry.  But, if people actually read review instead of simply looking at the score they would understand what is going on. 

If you remove both 40% review the metascore would only go up by 0.96 ((100 / 85 reviews * 80%) - (100 / 87 reviews *40%)) X 2 reviews.

Last edited by yvanjean - on 01 June 2018

I don't really care either way but I'd caution against trusting Jim Sterling wholeheartedly regarding this game.

I haven't watched or read any of his stuff in years but, back when I used to call Destructoid home, Sterling seemed to have some kind of vendetta against David Cage. I'm not talking about just bashing his work in reviews, I'm talking about consistently taking shots at him in unrelated articles and editorials. Not simple criticism, either, but full-on juvenile insults. Honestly, I thought it was unprofessional and petty even by Jim Sterling's meager standards.

He did this with a few others well-known developers, as well, probably as a way to garner attention, though I remember him going after Cage especially.

Granted, that's been years ago, but I can't imagine that kind of vitriol dissipating completely.



The plot of this game is the same recycled melodrama about robots and AI derived from I, robot novels from 1950s. It doesn't bring anything new to the table.

Last edited by CuCabeludo - on 02 June 2018

CGI-Quality said:
John2290 said:

I agree but there has been nothing that hasn't been recycled or a mishmash of the same stuff since the 70's. It's all the same stuff done differently even games like SOMA or Neir Automata are just varied versions of the same material,same goes for all movies and TV since.

The game doesn't have to say something new to be good, I believe it fell short trying to achieve to much not because it didn't try and reinvent the autonomous wheel.

Eh, the only thing it fell short of was a 90+ Meta (which is totally fine - Until Dawn was nowhere near as ambitious and is a beloved game, sitting at a 79 Meta). Most people who document playing it are loving it. Seems to be doing exactly what it set out to do, on top of, selling quite well (you'll need to understand French :P).

Thanks for that link. David gives much better interviews in his native language. His personality comes off as much more modest in french than in english, where he tries his best to say the right words.



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VGPolyglot said:
CGI-Quality said:

It has nothing to do with an emotional attachment. Just common sense. And I'm playing the game. A 4/10 is absolutely ludicrous and it seems that most sensible reviewers agree. :)

It's common sense that Detroit: Become Human isn't 4/10? Video games are completely subjective, you can give a 4/10 and still be perfectly right because nobody can discredit it.

You seem to enjoy being a contrarian, just for the sake of it.



yvanjean said:
DonFerrari said:

Thanks for backtracking.

Not liking a game isn't the main metric for any score. He is reviewing a game not scoring his enjoyment. Unless you find it acceptable if I would score Halo a 0 because I totally don't like the game.

Only a moron would give zero to a game that is not completely broken ... but Metacritic has often been criticized for taking 5 point scales review at face value. 

5 point scale which reviews games based on 5- Strongly Satisfied 4 - Somewhat satisfied 3- Neither Satisfied or Dissatisfied 2 - Somewhat Dissatisfied 1- Strongly Dissatisfied result in score of 20% and 40%. The reviewer are not really bashing the game has unplayable but rather their scale is different then the rest of the industry.  But, if people actually read review instead of simply looking at the score they would understand what is going on. 

If you remove both 40% review the metascore would only go up by 0.96 ((100 / 85 reviews * 80%) - (100 / 87 reviews *40%)) X 2 reviews.

You gone to their review? I don't think so.

https://www.videogamer.com/reviews/detroit-become-human-review is 4/10 so it isn't a 5 point scale.

http://www.digitallydownloaded.net/2018/06/review-west-of-loathing-nintendo-switch.html they give half star as well, so another 10 point scale.

So your whole premise of they giving 5 point and based on how much they like the game (which isn't even a good way of reviewing games, I don't want to know if a reviewer like the game I want to see what is the game) is dead wrong.

And considering digitallydownloaded gave 9/10 to the game I gave the link I have very hard time accepting that this game is a whopping 50 points out of 100 better than Detroit.

Or that this game http://www.digitallydownloaded.net/2018/05/review-happy-birthdays-nintendo-switch.html is perfect and Detroit dwelves on the broken side of the scale.

Please keep defending that they were totally professional with both 40/100.

And no one is saying the average would change much (although it would keep the 80 it had), but that both are at troll level clickbaiting side.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Mcube said:

Heavy rain is a good game but I think Beyond two souls is still one of the dumbest games I´ve ever played. Just cant get over it it feels like he just made everything up as he went on. Heavy rain is good and Indigo Prophecy is pretty fun aswell. 

I didn't find it dumb, but it done it's job on what it was supposed to do, so no reason for a low score as well.

yvanjean said:

That's what happen if you can't maintain professionalism you get decommissioned. 

I'm not saying they are all professional most of the review writers are young college kids with very little experience.... but the Metascore make their review irrelevant. 

Going back to Detroit: Become Human of the 84 reviews most are from credible source and websites. If someone did not enjoy the game and use a 5 point scale .... 2/5 (40%) isn't trolling it's just a negative review.   Reviewer backed up his score with an article that explain why he din't like it. 80 average isn't there because all reviews should be 80%, it's what the game got from compiling all review score. 

Thanks for backtracking.

Not liking a game isn't the main metric for any score. He is reviewing a game not scoring his enjoyment. Unless you find it acceptable if I would score Halo a 0 because I totally don't like the game.

Mandalore76 said:

He already told you.  There are plenty of people who watch a reviewer's videos (myself included, which is why I'm throwing my 2 cents in here) regardless of what they are playing, because they happen to like the reviewer.  I watched the exact same video, and I have no problem telling you that I don't have a PS4.  I didn't type "find negative reviews on Detroit: Become Human" into the YouTube search bar.  I typed "Jim Sterling", because I happen to like listening to his videos while on lunch break or driving home from work.  If you like the particular reviewer, the content doesn't have to be something you actually intend to play, or sought out, or even agree with for that matter.

Well I am someone that even if I like the person or format of what they do just watch if the content itself holds some interest to me. Otherwise it bores me.

I 'won't go any further because you probably missed the mod warning. Anyway I have no issue with you not having a PS4 or playing its exclusives (or even being in a thread about one), as long as you are clear on it everything is fine.

What do you mean it did what it was supposed to do? Its easy to say it like that since Aliens Colonial Marines and Duke Nukem Forever both also did what they were supposed to do. Beyond was such a confusing trainwreck its spectacular in how dumb it is. Everything Beyond did Heavy Rain did better I mean this is shown in reviews and public opinions on both games just brushing it off as ´it did what it had to do´ sounds like it was sucessfull in what it did which, let´s be fair here, wasn´t really the case.  



CGI-Quality said:
hinch said:

Played through the game in a week and I'd say 79 is a pretty fair meta score. I'd personally give it the game a 7. And like other story driven games, I'm not keen to replay it anytime soon - hence why I traded it in.

[MINI REVIEW] My verdict.. better than Beyond, by far but not quite as good as Heavy Rain. Which is a bit of a disappointment as I am fascinated at the premise and setting of the game. Detroit does have a good cast with some of my favourite actors in it; Clancy Brown, Lance Henriksen, anyone? And some of the best looking graphics I've seen in-game.

Negatives, the game has clunky controls and awkward QTE's that have you wrestling around with your controller like a madman/woman else your characters suffer an ill fate should you miss to hit the right command. Story despite a promising start falls flat and a lot of cringy dialogue and text.

It does have some excellent moments in the game that pull on your heartstrings and a lot of options for replayability. Sadly, it is let down by the story, dull characters (barring Connor, Hank and a few others) and some poor writing.

I can't agree at all regarding the controls or story in relation to Heavy Rain. That game's controls were far clunkier, QTEs were much more confusing (and redundant) at times, and the storytelling isn't anywhere near as strong as Detroit's. 

Characters were appropriate for the setting and much better acted than Heavy Rain's, as well. 

How does Detroid control? It sounds dumb but I cant tell if its gonna be as clunky as Beyond and Heavy rain were or if they actually fixed it to be way smoother now. 



Mcube said:
DonFerrari said:

I didn't find it dumb, but it done it's job on what it was supposed to do, so no reason for a low score as well.

Thanks for backtracking.

Not liking a game isn't the main metric for any score. He is reviewing a game not scoring his enjoyment. Unless you find it acceptable if I would score Halo a 0 because I totally don't like the game.

Well I am someone that even if I like the person or format of what they do just watch if the content itself holds some interest to me. Otherwise it bores me.

I 'won't go any further because you probably missed the mod warning. Anyway I have no issue with you not having a PS4 or playing its exclusives (or even being in a thread about one), as long as you are clear on it everything is fine.

What do you mean it did what it was supposed to do? Its easy to say it like that since Aliens Colonial Marines and Duke Nukem Forever both also did what they were supposed to do. Beyond was such a confusing trainwreck its spectacular in how dumb it is. Everything Beyond did Heavy Rain did better I mean this is shown in reviews and public opinions on both games just brushing it off as ´it did what it had to do´ sounds like it was sucessfull in what it did which, let´s be fair here, wasn´t really the case.  

Quantic Dream games are supposed to be a narrative driven game with simple commands to interact and decide.

It's supposed to convey emotion heavy experience.

It's supposed to have great graphics and good face models.

Best metric in this case is seeing how the people that is their core market are very favorable of it.

To me HR and B2S were sucesfull in achieving what I expected. Will play Detroit to see as well.

Aliens CM and Duke NF were both trash level.

Should we keep remembering you that Detroit is 80 average so the low scores are really showing to be out of place? While ACM and DNF are very badly regarded and reviewed even on average. Totally exaggeration fallacy attempt.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."