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Diomedes, care to cite sources in Austrailia that the PS3 is at 70k? Last time I checked it was half that.



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Diomedes1976 said:
I dont think these numbers are accurate . So the PS3 had 800K sold units by 31 march in Europe and 32K in Australia and two months later we have only 70K units more sold in both territories toghether ? Pleeeeease ,nobody would believe that .I dont want to sound overly critic but this is absolutely impossible ,not the least because we do know the PS3 number is right now at 70K in Australia alone and we have the data for Germany in April about 16K consoles sold .Those numbers alone cover the gap between the information at 31-03 and the current number vgchartz gives .What do you think ,that the PS3 has sold 0 in UK ,France ,Spain ,Italy ,Netherlands and all the other countries for two months ? Plus I have noted the estimated 20K consoles of the week for NA didnt get accounted in the frontpage .

 Other than Sony, who reported that 800K number? I'm wondering if that's one more case of shipped vs sold numbers.



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http://psnow.es/juegos/ps3-destroza-espectativas-en-australia/ The console was at 27K in the first days after launch . The data for end april was 37K or 36.5K .... Right now the console must be at least in 45K . Well ,I think I remembered the numbers wrong ....it was Germany wich was 70K+ at end april (only germany ,not the conglomerate with Austria and Swizterland some make sometimes for sales information ) .In any case what I am saying is clear .....no way the PS3 has only sold 80K in all the territories toghether in two months . Just add ;800K +27 K=827K . Current vgchartz number=910K . So we have to believe it has sold only 87K consoles in two months ?And that having in count we had weekly data for the UK for some weeks that pointed to 16K weekly and Germany data about 16K april and the australian data about 8-9K per month ?That would leave the sales for all the other european countries and new zealand equal to zero .Plus in this time between the console has been released in Russia ,Middle Orient ,Arab Emirates etc ....maybe not big markets but that the releases alone would mean for thousands of sales at least in Russia . I have a growing sensation this site is biased against the PS3 .Things like that the NA data wednesday wasnt charged in the frontpage only for the PS3 and that its data for the PS3 in Japan is lower than media create one (when Media create only accounts japan and this page reportedly unites japan and other asian markets ) only adds to that impression .



fabinou said:
Nice job. except that Uk Wii numbers seems to high : Two weeks ago, UK Nintendo manager said ": “We’ve sold close to 438,000 Wiis in the UK in five months" (it was on May, the 11th) (instead of 595,733 on vgchartz week ending 13th) http://www.mcvuk.com/news/26994/Nintendo-hardware-sales-revealed But it' very nice to have some european numbers ! Keep going !

 well, five monhts from december  is the end of march. I think438000 were the sales at march 31. If you look at march 31 numbers on vgchartz for uk you have 453000, so a very good extimation



Diomedes1976 said:
http://psnow.es/juegos/ps3-destroza-espectativas-en-australia/ The console was at 27K in the first days after launch . The data for end april was 37K or 36.5K .... Right now the console must be at least in 45K . Well ,I think I remembered the numbers wrong ....it was Germany wich was 70K+ at end april (only germany ,not the conglomerate with Austria and Swizterland some make sometimes for sales information ) .In any case what I am saying is clear .....no way the PS3 has only sold 80K in all the territories toghether in two months . Just add ;800K +27 K=827K . Current vgchartz number=910K . So we have to believe it has sold only 87K consoles in two months ?And that having in count we had weekly data for the UK for some weeks that pointed to 16K weekly and Germany data about 16K april and the australian data about 8-9K per month ?That would leave the sales for all the other european countries and new zealand equal to zero .Plus in this time between the console has been released in Russia ,Middle Orient ,Arab Emirates etc ....maybe not big markets but that the releases alone would mean for thousands of sales at least in Russia . I have a growing sensation this site is biased against the PS3 .Things like that the NA data wednesday wasnt charged in the frontpage only for the PS3 and that its data for the PS3 in Japan is lower than media create one (when Media create only accounts japan and this page reportedly unites japan and other asian markets ) only adds to that impression .

Since apparently you didn't notice, I'll ask again - other than Sony, who claimed that the PS3 sold 800K consoles in the European launch?

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NJ5 said:
Diomedes1976 said:
http://psnow.es/juegos/ps3-destroza-espectativas-en-australia/ The console was at 27K in the first days after launch . The data for end april was 37K or 36.5K .... Right now the console must be at least in 45K . Well ,I think I remembered the numbers wrong ....it was Germany wich was 70K+ at end april (only germany ,not the conglomerate with Austria and Swizterland some make sometimes for sales information ) .In any case what I am saying is clear .....no way the PS3 has only sold 80K in all the territories toghether in two months . Just add ;800K +27 K=827K . Current vgchartz number=910K . So we have to believe it has sold only 87K consoles in two months ?And that having in count we had weekly data for the UK for some weeks that pointed to 16K weekly and Germany data about 16K april and the australian data about 8-9K per month ?That would leave the sales for all the other european countries and new zealand equal to zero .Plus in this time between the console has been released in Russia ,Middle Orient ,Arab Emirates etc ....maybe not big markets but that the releases alone would mean for thousands of sales at least in Russia . I have a growing sensation this site is biased against the PS3 .Things like that the NA data wednesday wasnt charged in the frontpage only for the PS3 and that its data for the PS3 in Japan is lower than media create one (when Media create only accounts japan and this page reportedly unites japan and other asian markets ) only adds to that impression .

Since apparently you didn't notice, I'll ask again - other than Sony, who claimed that the PS3 sold 800K consoles in the European launch?
This was quite clear ,the PS3 sold 600K units the first 3 days and for the 7 days remaining of the month its sales dropped some 75% .So the rest of the month it sold 25% of 600,thats about 150K more and that assuming sales stumbled in the same way in all the other regions as in the ones we had data as UK ,something totally unclear .Howard Stringer gave the 800K data ,he isnt someone who would lie directly to the media .In any case what I am saying is clear ....for the rare confirmed  numbers we have (germany in april ,Spain software numbers ,the UK numbers in some leaked data from special days as when Nintendo sold more ) we see always the PS3 selling double the X360 .Yet this site is assuming they are even or even the X360 outselling the PS3 ,where do they take their data because the few data we have shows exactly the contrary with the PS3 doubling X360 sales or about 40% better in the worst scenarios. 

 



European Numbers!!! Woohoo! Not sure how you guys do it, but this is awesome! Now I'll have something new to look at at work!

 

Edit: BAh 360 numbers went down again!! GrrRRR!



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Diomedes1976 said:
NJ5 said:
Diomedes1976 said:
http://psnow.es/juegos/ps3-destroza-espectativas-en-australia/ The console was at 27K in the first days after launch . The data for end april was 37K or 36.5K .... Right now the console must be at least in 45K . Well ,I think I remembered the numbers wrong ....it was Germany wich was 70K+ at end april (only germany ,not the conglomerate with Austria and Swizterland some make sometimes for sales information ) .In any case what I am saying is clear .....no way the PS3 has only sold 80K in all the territories toghether in two months . Just add ;800K +27 K=827K . Current vgchartz number=910K . So we have to believe it has sold only 87K consoles in two months ?And that having in count we had weekly data for the UK for some weeks that pointed to 16K weekly and Germany data about 16K april and the australian data about 8-9K per month ?That would leave the sales for all the other european countries and new zealand equal to zero .Plus in this time between the console has been released in Russia ,Middle Orient ,Arab Emirates etc ....maybe not big markets but that the releases alone would mean for thousands of sales at least in Russia . I have a growing sensation this site is biased against the PS3 .Things like that the NA data wednesday wasnt charged in the frontpage only for the PS3 and that its data for the PS3 in Japan is lower than media create one (when Media create only accounts japan and this page reportedly unites japan and other asian markets ) only adds to that impression .

Since apparently you didn't notice, I'll ask again - other than Sony, who claimed that the PS3 sold 800K consoles in the European launch?
This was quite clear ,the PS3 sold 600K units the first 3 days and for the 7 days remaining of the month its sales dropped some 75% .So the rest of the month it sold 25% of 600,thats about 150K more and that assuming sales stumbled in the same way in all the other regions as in the ones we had data as UK ,something totally unclear .Howard Stringer gave the 800K data ,he isnt someone who would lie directly to the media .In any case what I am saying is clear ....for the rare confirmed numbers we have (germany in april ,Spain software numbers ,the UK numbers in some leaked data from special days as when Nintendo sold more ) we see always the PS3 selling double the X360 .Yet this site is assuming they are even or even the X360 outselling the PS3 ,where do they take their data because the few data we have shows exactly the contrary with the PS3 doubling X360 sales or about 40% better in the worst scenarios.

 


So your answer is that noone else other than Sony backed that number, that's the important thing to note here...



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NJ5 said:
Diomedes1976 said:
NJ5 said:
Diomedes1976 said:
http://psnow.es/juegos/ps3-destroza-espectativas-en-australia/ The console was at 27K in the first days after launch . The data for end april was 37K or 36.5K .... Right now the console must be at least in 45K . Well ,I think I remembered the numbers wrong ....it was Germany wich was 70K+ at end april (only germany ,not the conglomerate with Austria and Swizterland some make sometimes for sales information ) .In any case what I am saying is clear .....no way the PS3 has only sold 80K in all the territories toghether in two months . Just add ;800K +27 K=827K . Current vgchartz number=910K . So we have to believe it has sold only 87K consoles in two months ?And that having in count we had weekly data for the UK for some weeks that pointed to 16K weekly and Germany data about 16K april and the australian data about 8-9K per month ?That would leave the sales for all the other european countries and new zealand equal to zero .Plus in this time between the console has been released in Russia ,Middle Orient ,Arab Emirates etc ....maybe not big markets but that the releases alone would mean for thousands of sales at least in Russia . I have a growing sensation this site is biased against the PS3 .Things like that the NA data wednesday wasnt charged in the frontpage only for the PS3 and that its data for the PS3 in Japan is lower than media create one (when Media create only accounts japan and this page reportedly unites japan and other asian markets ) only adds to that impression .

Since apparently you didn't notice, I'll ask again - other than Sony, who claimed that the PS3 sold 800K consoles in the European launch?
This was quite clear ,the PS3 sold 600K units the first 3 days and for the 7 days remaining of the month its sales dropped some 75% .So the rest of the month it sold 25% of 600,thats about 150K more and that assuming sales stumbled in the same way in all the other regions as in the ones we had data as UK ,something totally unclear .Howard Stringer gave the 800K data ,he isnt someone who would lie directly to the media .In any case what I am saying is clear ....for the rare confirmed numbers we have (germany in april ,Spain software numbers ,the UK numbers in some leaked data from special days as when Nintendo sold more ) we see always the PS3 selling double the X360 .Yet this site is assuming they are even or even the X360 outselling the PS3 ,where do they take their data because the few data we have shows exactly the contrary with the PS3 doubling X360 sales or about 40% better in the worst scenarios.

 


So your answer is that noone else other than Sony backed that number, that's the important thing to note here...

No ,my answer is that if yourself added the additional data for the countries (i.e some 25K more for Spain second week ,some 37K more from UK  )you arrived yourself to the about 800K number .And my other answer point that the few data we have confirmed shows PS3 nearly doubling the X360 sales everywhere ,so this kind of data put here about the X360 nearly outselling the PS3  is devoid of  any credibility . 

 



Diomedes1976 said:
NJ5 said:
Diomedes1976 said:
NJ5 said:
Diomedes1976 said:
http://psnow.es/juegos/ps3-destroza-espectativas-en-australia/ The console was at 27K in the first days after launch . The data for end april was 37K or 36.5K .... Right now the console must be at least in 45K . Well ,I think I remembered the numbers wrong ....it was Germany wich was 70K+ at end april (only germany ,not the conglomerate with Austria and Swizterland some make sometimes for sales information ) .In any case what I am saying is clear .....no way the PS3 has only sold 80K in all the territories toghether in two months . Just add ;800K +27 K=827K . Current vgchartz number=910K . So we have to believe it has sold only 87K consoles in two months ?And that having in count we had weekly data for the UK for some weeks that pointed to 16K weekly and Germany data about 16K april and the australian data about 8-9K per month ?That would leave the sales for all the other european countries and new zealand equal to zero .Plus in this time between the console has been released in Russia ,Middle Orient ,Arab Emirates etc ....maybe not big markets but that the releases alone would mean for thousands of sales at least in Russia . I have a growing sensation this site is biased against the PS3 .Things like that the NA data wednesday wasnt charged in the frontpage only for the PS3 and that its data for the PS3 in Japan is lower than media create one (when Media create only accounts japan and this page reportedly unites japan and other asian markets ) only adds to that impression .

Since apparently you didn't notice, I'll ask again - other than Sony, who claimed that the PS3 sold 800K consoles in the European launch?
This was quite clear ,the PS3 sold 600K units the first 3 days and for the 7 days remaining of the month its sales dropped some 75% .So the rest of the month it sold 25% of 600,thats about 150K more and that assuming sales stumbled in the same way in all the other regions as in the ones we had data as UK ,something totally unclear .Howard Stringer gave the 800K data ,he isnt someone who would lie directly to the media .In any case what I am saying is clear ....for the rare confirmed numbers we have (germany in april ,Spain software numbers ,the UK numbers in some leaked data from special days as when Nintendo sold more ) we see always the PS3 selling double the X360 .Yet this site is assuming they are even or even the X360 outselling the PS3 ,where do they take their data because the few data we have shows exactly the contrary with the PS3 doubling X360 sales or about 40% better in the worst scenarios.

 


So your answer is that noone else other than Sony backed that number, that's the important thing to note here...

No ,my answer is that if yourself added the additional data for the countries (i.e some 25K more for Spain second week ,some 37K more from UK )you arrived yourself to the about 800K number .And my other answer point that the few data we have confirmed shows PS3 nearly doubling the X360 sales everywhere ,so this kind of data put here about the X360 nearly outselling the PS3 is devoid of any credibility .

 


 oh come on diomedes, be glad we even have european numbers



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