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Yeah, dumb fucking gamespot who put like 3 paragraphs of fluff in their article claiming this was the next RRoD type thing for the PS3.



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TheRealMafoo said:
shams said:
I don't believe 2%-4% of PS3s have this error - that would almost be an epidemic.

10m PS3 --> 300,000 faulty consoles due to this error alone.

2-4% of hard drives fail. How do you explain the ones in the PS3 not? If it makes you feel any better, the same rate fail in the 360.

Hard drives fail. It's a fact of life.

Yes - they fail.

But over what time period? You don't get a 2-4%  failure rate "instantanously" - that is why there is a QA department, and why there is a quality control procedure for hardware manufacturing companies. There is NO way that 3% of hard drives put into new PS3s are "faulty" - just no way.

If you are saying that 3% of all hard drives fail over a period of say - 4 years - then I completely agree with you. Then within 3 years, 3% of launch PS3s will have failed for this reason. This I agree with.  

 



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I only skimmed that article, but no where did it mention the PS3.



It's a hard drive thing, not just a PS3 thing. Next time take the time to actually read before you post.



Aj_habfan said:
It's a hard drive thing, not just a PS3 thing. Next time take the time to actually read before you post.
I don't think you read, or you'd see that the failure rate is .88%, the REPLACEMENT rate is 2-4%. Like I said, this article has nothing to do with the PS3, and should not be used as a representation of PS3 failure rates.

 



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shams said:
TheRealMafoo said:
shams said:
I don't believe 2%-4% of PS3s have this error - that would almost be an epidemic.

10m PS3 --> 300,000 faulty consoles due to this error alone.

2-4% of hard drives fail. How do you explain the ones in the PS3 not? If it makes you feel any better, the same rate fail in the 360.

Hard drives fail. It's a fact of life.

Yes - they fail.

But over what time period? You don't get a 2-4%  failure rate "instantanously" - that is why there is a QA department, and why there is a quality control procedure for hardware manufacturing companies. There is NO way that 3% of hard drives put into new PS3s are "faulty" - just no way.

If you are saying that 3% of all hard drives fail over a period of say - 4 years - then I completely agree with you. Then within 3 years, 3% of launch PS3s will have failed for this reason. This I agree with.  

 


 From the article I linked:

The Carnegie Mellon study examined large production systems, including high-performance computing sites and Internet services sites running SCSI, FC and SATA drives. The data sheets for those drives listed MTBF between 1 million to 1.5 million hours, which the study said should mean annual failure rates "of at most 0.88%." However, the study showed typical annual replacement rates of between 2% and 4% 

This could mean that the failure rate is closer to 1%, and the delta in that study was returned drives that were actually not faulty.

Really the only reason for this thread is to let everyone know this error is due to hardware that just fails. Not really an issue with build quality that could be avoided (other then if they made a choice not to use a hard drive, but I will take the advantage of the HD for the risk of it failing :p) 



Username2324 said:
Aj_habfan said:
It's a hard drive thing, not just a PS3 thing. Next time take the time to actually read before you post.
I don't think you read, or you'd see that the failure rate is .88%, the REPLACEMENT rate is 2-4%. Like I said, this article has nothing to do with the PS3, and should not be used as a representation of PS3 failure rates.

 


You just mentioned the failure rate in that post. It's relevant to 360 and PS3.



Aj_habfan said:
Username2324 said:
Aj_habfan said:
It's a hard drive thing, not just a PS3 thing. Next time take the time to actually read before you post.
I don't think you read, or you'd see that the failure rate is .88%, the REPLACEMENT rate is 2-4%. Like I said, this article has nothing to do with the PS3, and should not be used as a representation of PS3 failure rates.

 


You just mentioned the failure rate in that post. It's relevant to 360 and PS3.

That study was done about server harddrives, which don't use the same drive that are in the 360 and PS3. That study doesn't tell what vendors they are from, what type of drives, or specific uses.

Like I said, this article cannot be used as a representation for PS3 (or 360) failure rates.

 



Man, this thing has been completely blown of proportion really quickly. Nobody had even heard of this thing until two days ago and now people are comparing it to the RROD, which people have known about for at least an entire year, if not two.



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By your logic, the PS3 failure rate is 2-4% for the HDD issues, IN ADDITION TOO the error code which has nothing to do with hardware.


http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=131209

"Despite the problem being unrelated to the hardware, your system will apparently still need replacing if the error occurs."



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