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makingmusic476 said:
starcraft said:
Wasn't the DMC4 bundle in Japan called exclusive? And then two days later Microsoft came out with one?

The argument here would be that the Sony bundle is the only one with a PS3 in it. So a bundle with a PS3 and GTA is exclusive to them. What I'm saying is, this doesn't indicate that it is the GTAIV part of the bundle that is exclusive.

I don't remember that. I remember rumors that DMC4 would be exclusive to the ps3 in Japan entirely, because Capcom didn't feel like localize the game for such a small userbase, but obviously that never happened.

And I'm not quite sure what the second half of your post is saying.

People were saying that only the PS3 was getting a DMC4 bundle, which ended up being a round-a-bout way of saying that if you wanted a PS3 and DMC4 you could only get it from Sony (which was a very sneaky way of stating the obvious and making it sound a whole lot more special than it really was).

It is quite possible this is the same thing. 

 



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starcraft said:
makingmusic476 said:
starcraft said:
Wasn't the DMC4 bundle in Japan called exclusive? And then two days later Microsoft came out with one?

The argument here would be that the Sony bundle is the only one with a PS3 in it. So a bundle with a PS3 and GTA is exclusive to them. What I'm saying is, this doesn't indicate that it is the GTAIV part of the bundle that is exclusive.

I don't remember that. I remember rumors that DMC4 would be exclusive to the ps3 in Japan entirely, because Capcom didn't feel like localize the game for such a small userbase, but obviously that never happened.

And I'm not quite sure what the second half of your post is saying.

People were saying that only the PS3 was getting a DMC4 bundle, which ended up being a round-a-bout way of saying that if you wanted a PS3 and DMC4 you could only get it from Sony (which was a very sneaky way of stating the obvious and making it sound a whole lot more special than it really was).

It is quite possible this is the same thing.

 


 I don't remember that at all.  Got a link?



makingmusic476 said:
starcraft said:
makingmusic476 said:
starcraft said:
Wasn't the DMC4 bundle in Japan called exclusive? And then two days later Microsoft came out with one?

The argument here would be that the Sony bundle is the only one with a PS3 in it. So a bundle with a PS3 and GTA is exclusive to them. What I'm saying is, this doesn't indicate that it is the GTAIV part of the bundle that is exclusive.

I don't remember that. I remember rumors that DMC4 would be exclusive to the ps3 in Japan entirely, because Capcom didn't feel like localize the game for such a small userbase, but obviously that never happened.

And I'm not quite sure what the second half of your post is saying.

People were saying that only the PS3 was getting a DMC4 bundle, which ended up being a round-a-bout way of saying that if you wanted a PS3 and DMC4 you could only get it from Sony (which was a very sneaky way of stating the obvious and making it sound a whole lot more special than it really was).

It is quite possible this is the same thing.

 


I don't remember that at all. Got a link?


I'll try to find one, it is of course quite possible that I completely misunderstood that situation.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/20/japans-devil-may-cry-4-ps3-bundle/

http://www.psu.com/Devil-May-Cry-on-PS3-to-feature-exclusive-content-News--a0002258-p0.php

http://www.gwn.com/news/story.php/id/14854/Devil_May_Cry_4_Bundle_Announced_For_Japan.html

 

I understand what I typed was a bit confusing.  Essentially what happened is there were rumours that the bundle was Sony exclusive and that is the picture that was painted.

Take what the GAF mod said with a grain of salt and await his providing of proof or confirmation from Rockstar/Microsoft that they won't have a bundle. 



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Well, the only one of those that mentioned exclusivity was Joystiq, and their source was PS3Fanboy, who did not mention anything exclusivity at all. Even then, joystiq merely "assumed" it was exclusive.

Now compare this with the current situation. We have bundles for both versions of GTAIV popping up on websites all across Europe, yet the PS3 bundles involve a special PS3 package, where as the 360 bundles consist of a 360 Arcade with GTAIV separate. If there was an official 360 bundle on the way, they wouldn't be offering those, now would they?



Microsoft should show their bundle soon because most of the swedish sites have the special PS3 bundle.



 
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Jandre002 said:
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If it's not coming on launch day it's pointless, most of GTAIV's sales will be week 1. I guess Sony isn't too confident they'll grab a large share of GTAIV sales without bundles.

1)And why exactly would Sony care? GTAIV will sell millions, they care about hardware sales. Its certain they will sell a higher percentage of GTAIV in comparison to their global install base. (Will have higher attach rate than 360.)

2)The only people who care about that crap are fanboys. Sony gets higher attach rate, Sony currently has more momentum in every region and is still at a higher price. Hmmm...if your going to make a game starting now that will release in a year or two, why the hell would you make it 360 exclusive anymore? Thats the point of the console wars. Game quality and community. It wont sell more software of course, but the PS3 sure as hell is going to smash the 360 in hardware increase.

3) It will be close in the US, but it will be a landslide victory in Europe.


1) And 360 will sell more hardware and overall more copies of GTAIV, the difference between them will be greater than the PS3 versions total sales.

2) Because PS3 software doesn't sell for crap, they've had to bundle almost every single game to hit 1 million sales

Motorstorm, Resistance: Fall of Man, Uncharted: Drakes Fortune, Pro Evolution Soccer 2008, Devil May Cry 4

Bundle, bundle, bundle, bundle, bundle. PS3 games only sell if you give them away for free.

3) So the 360 has a lead of 7 million in the US and sales will be 'close', but the PS3 only being 1 million behind in others it'll be a landslide? What waccy baccy you smokin'? 360 version's gonna outsell the PS3 version 2:1 before the first DLC hits.

 

GTA's seen as an Xbox franchise now kid.


You obviously dont do any research before you open your mouth... Kinda like when you said that Ps3 sales would drastically decrease because GT5p would not sell any HW and easter sales were too good... we all know how that 150k OTher week turned out dont we.


I feel I was closer in my estimation than your prediction of 1 million PS3 sales.

 

Exactly what research do I need to do to know PS3 games don't sell? Sony even has to bundle MGS4 and Gran Turismo Prologue to get decent sales, face it Sony has to give their games away before they achieve respectible numbers. It's proabably really embaressing to see something so lame like Perfect Dark Zero topple almost every PS3 game in sales.

US sales are going to be a slaughterfest. Playstations just not important anymore.


What does that say about the 360? Microsoft got beat in every territory last week, even in the U.S. But hey, you still got those supply "issues" excuse eh? oh wait, it's already April. . And also, your attempt at saying "PS3 games don't sell" is seriously flawed. Sure the PS3 software sales can't touch the 360's in the U.S but to say that no PS3 game can sell without a bundle is plain ignorance. But then again, I don't expect anything less from a fantard.


"Playstations just not important anymore."

well according to sales data it actually is, ps3 will surely be ahead in eu later this year then only NA left to overtake

this is the ps3`s 2nd year, the 360 has already had its second year - i mean i find it a bit odd really how well ps3 is doing without thier main games released, with even a higher price point and less # of availiable games the ps3 is still selling more consoles. once the 2nd year is over for ps3 we will se what the situation is worldwide.

to say ps3 games cant sell for shit without a bundle is a lame comment, you obviously are a fanboy who obviously is not here for constructed discussion regarding gaming.

well said BBsin



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makingmusic476 said:
Well, the only one of those that mentioned exclusivity was Joystiq, and their source was PS3Fanboy, who did not mention anything exclusivity at all. Even then, joystiq merely "assumed" it was exclusive.

Now compare this with the current situation. We have bundles for both versions of GTAIV popping up on websites all across Europe, yet the PS3 bundles involve a special PS3 package, where as the 360 bundles consist of a 360 Arcade with GTAIV separate. If there was an official 360 bundle on the way, they wouldn't be offering those, now would they?


Oh I don't know.  Were there any PS3 bundle deals over the last few weeks?  At the end of the day I guess my biggest gripe with the idea this bundle is exclusive is the fact that I just can't see Microsoft letting it happen that way, unless they have something big to counter it.

How long after GTAIV's launch is the bundle available?  Perhaps MS feels that the difference in launches is big enough not to have an impact? 



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well, maybe this was sony's counter to the dlc, or maybe this bundle was confirmed a long time ago and microsoft used the dlc as a counter. so many ways you can look at it, but maybe microsoft can't do anything about it, that's why nothing has happened. this link pretty much confirms the bundle too:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/retail-confirms-playstation-3-gta-iv-bundle




See this is hilarious. What makes people think that Microsoft has the upper hand in gaming? You all are delusional right now. Sony may very well have always had this exclusive bundle deal, as soon as Microsoft secured the exclusive DLC deal.

You dont think Rockstar was talking to Sony about the offer for DLC as well? Sony and Microsoft know much more about each other and their plans than anyone here does. DLC may have been a counter for a bundle, or vice versa, but to think that Microsoft has control over GTAIV is ridiculous. The Xbox360 is not reliable yet, and their sales were abysmal up until August of last year, and then fell into last place as soon as the new year hit. They have no pull. Sure they can pay off some companies, but what makes you think Sony can't?

Sony is going to keep outselling the Xbox360 in all regions every week, except for maybe when price drops occur and Gears 2 week. Its almost like 2008 is a relaunching of the PS3, with its higher price being justified with features and software. 360 fans are in complete denial, but did anyone last year really think they would accept that no one really cares for the Xbox360 anymore? It was only ever attractive being equal to the PS3 in features for a cheaper price and better software.

Now with the PS3 having many more useful features, much better software, and having less of a price difference, why would a console such as the 360 which BARELY beat out the PS3 last year all of a sudden be able to pull ahead, or even keep up? As far as brand loyalty goes, that well will run dry in about a year. This year, at a lower price, there simply isn't a reason to choose a 360 over a PS3. But you all will see, GTA is less than a month away .

This reality check will be SO SO sweet. Even sweeter for me since I have been saying this would happen all along.



i think rockstar told sony choosse DLC or bunndel........here is what i think went down

rockstar:so you want DLC or bunndel...

sony: hmmm bunndel....

rockstar ok then the 360 gets the dlc

sony but hey we need sum monney too print out the new gta iv boxes....can you get microsft too give us sum?

:rockstar......sure thing sony



****3 days later****

ring ring ring ring.....hello this is microsoft

rockstarL yes im here too ofeer you sum DLC.......

:microsft...............dose the 360 get it too no thay dont if you wanna pay me 40m in cash :D............*gigiles*

wow and the ps3 dosent get any of it you sure.........lol i would be a sucker if i didnt give you the 40 gee thanks we are real pals..... :)


*3 days later back at the sony HQ.......here the money sony thanks it was wird at microsft ....thay had paintings of bill gates int he nude in every room.,.....oh well.......atleast the new gta iv online wont be able too play whit out a harddrive :).....hehe suckers! XP



mgs4 will sell 2.4m week 1

japan:500k

others: 1m

NA:900k

AAA (90%+) games (metacritic):

nintendo:65

Xbox: 42

playstation: 98