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Kenzo, as far as I know, it's never been required to add minorities. But since I have never worked with government advertisers, I can't be sure of that.

The reason advertisers do it is simple: it shows diversity and frankly, white people either don't care or they get a warm fuzzy feeling knowing that minorities are getting "their fair share" of "stuff", whatever that "stuff" might be. It's absurd, really, and somehow it just worked its way into things. You would think that targeting the intended demographic would be more effective but that just isn't the prevailing thought nowadays. Instead, we get everything from ancient Chinese men to disaffected youth to serial rapists in your average Wii commercial.

I mean, look at this. What does this ad say about anything other than "Look at how diverse we are, folks! And we're having fun with our diversity!"



Sad thing is, everyone does it nowadays. I guess by putting every demographic you can find in the same ad image, the less chance you have of offending anyone or alienating the one odd straggler from that demographic that *may* be interested in your product.

And before everyone jumps down my throat, I'm not saying that only white people should be in ads nor am I picking on the Wii. That's just a prime example of how modern advertisers are focusing on political correctness over focusing on targeting a core market. This applies to everything from socio-economic status to race to age to gender.




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Well I both agree and disagree with different things this guy says. Its a fair critiscm but i think this guy needs to stop his moaning to be honest.



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kenzomatic said:

He does have a point but did anyone click the link for more? It's very long and full of ranting.

 I know i never clicked the link, i had enough of his ranting from what was posted.

One other thing.  I was watching a BET special before, it was the worst poeple that did bad things to black people.  And atleast one if not more of them were black people fighting for equal rights.  The BET special ripped into these people. The guys were tired of black people getting into colleges and getting jobs when they were not the best educated or had less experience for the jobs over the white guys.

I will choose not to add my own comments, as i think a program that choose people fighting for equal rights as one of the worst things to happen to black people speaks for itself.



Griffin said:
rocketpig said:
Griffin said:
Most black people act the same way as they are portrayed in games. Not only that but most of the black people i know have sold drugs, played basketball and talked street, i guess thats what its called. The other black people i have known fit other typical black stereotypes, one is a larger lady who loves that southern food and a guy who came to this country when he was about 17 from Africa, and he still likes to wear those robes, he is in his 50's now.

Tell me you're joking. Seriously, tell me if you're joking or not. This is treacherous ground you're walking on.


I am serious, I'm sure not all black people fit the type of people i listed but those have been the black people i have known. Where i went to Highschool there were only about a dozen black people out of about 1400 and all them sold drugs/did drugs, and acted the typical black street person. When i went to JR high, there were alot more black people and this was how it was. This is just how it was where i grew up and where i live now. I'm not being racist if this is what people think, i'm far from it.

The city i live in has more people useing drugs per population then just about any other place in the country. Thekitchensink guy goes to college in the same town as i live, ask him. I'm sure he will of have seen what i'm talking about.


Listen, every group of people have members who fit a stereotype. After all, that's how stereotypes are often formed (though not always). You're basing an opinion that sounds as if you want the stereotype to back it up. Chances are you're missing many things those people around you are doing that don't fit that stereotype in the slightest bit, instead focusing solely on those things that do.

And, hate to break it to you, but that's racism.




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And RPG makers steriotype every male in a Japanese RPG are always incredibly effimate:

 

So it just seems like, atleast to me. They've even made Cecil into...Something he seemed not to be in FFIV:

Not that there's anything wrong with being.......Effimate......But not every RPG Hero has to have a softer, gentler side.

And why aren't we talking about the horribe anti-Spanish steriotypes in Resident Evil 4, and Anti-German steriotypes in many FPS games? After all, not every Spainard is a plage-infested, torch-wielding crazy, nor is every German a MP40-carrying Nazi deathmachine. Yet, I'd be willing to say 80-90 of all Germanic-Heritage NPCs in games are enemies, and always evil.

Lets test: Evil plague-wielding Spaniards, or community minded citizens?

 

 



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nor is every German a MP40-carrying Nazi deathmachine.

Dunno about that. Ze Germahns scare me.

Germans are so ridiculously stereotyped in video games that it's come to the point of unintentional comedy. 




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rocketpig said:
Griffin said:
rocketpig said:
Griffin said:
Most black people act the same way as they are portrayed in games. Not only that but most of the black people i know have sold drugs, played basketball and talked street, i guess thats what its called. The other black people i have known fit other typical black stereotypes, one is a larger lady who loves that southern food and a guy who came to this country when he was about 17 from Africa, and he still likes to wear those robes, he is in his 50's now.

Tell me you're joking. Seriously, tell me if you're joking or not. This is treacherous ground you're walking on.


I am serious, I'm sure not all black people fit the type of people i listed but those have been the black people i have known. Where i went to Highschool there were only about a dozen black people out of about 1400 and all them sold drugs/did drugs, and acted the typical black street person. When i went to JR high, there were alot more black people and this was how it was. This is just how it was where i grew up and where i live now. I'm not being racist if this is what people think, i'm far from it.

The city i live in has more people useing drugs per population then just about any other place in the country. Thekitchensink guy goes to college in the same town as i live, ask him. I'm sure he will of have seen what i'm talking about.


Listen, every group of people have members who fit a stereotype. After all, that's how stereotypes are often formed (though not always). You're basing an opinion that sounds as if you want the stereotype to back it up. Chances are you're missing many things those people around you are doing that don't fit that stereotype in the slightest bit, instead focusing solely on those things that do.

And, hate to break it to you, but that's racism.


Maybe i'm not the best at explaining my point as that seems to be what is happening here. I know not all black people fit the drug/street image of the black people i listed. That was just most of the black people i knew, i also knew alot of what poeple that have sold drugs, i for one did it before. The man i knew who came over from Africa went on to University, he has 5 kids, 3 of which are in University and the other two are still in high school. None of which fit the street image which i listed before.



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There has always been funny stereotypes or used in comedy. Like how many Polish jokes are there? Thats not necessarily racism.