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Forums - Sales Discussion - November 2017 NPD Thread! PS4 > XBO > Switch

I voted X1>PS4>NS on the poll. I guess I underestimated the power of that $199 deal.

But I'm not surprised one bit about the NS being way behind.  I mean, the thing didn't have any deals for God's sake.  I'm still scratching my head trying to understand why would anyone go out of their home to buy an item on black friday when they could get said item just any other day for the same price.



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zorg1000 said:
tbone51 said:

How do you feel about it being the 4th highest Nov for 1st year holidays? 

Its not good because Switch is $100 less than PS4 was in 2014.

Were you trying to be sarcastic here because anyone knows that $100 makes a big difference. I can only imagine the difference it would have been if the PS4 was $299 in 2014.



Lawlight said:
tbone51 said:

Your narrative is "i cant let nintendo have any good news" lmao

What's the good news? That the Switch sold below expectations this month again?

I thought the report said it sold within expectations.



tbone51 said:
Lawlight said:

What's the good news? That the Switch sold below expectations this month again?

How do you feel about it being the 4th highest Nov for 1st year holidays? That

Pretty good. Now let’s put that into context - how much did you predict it would sell in November?



Lawlight said:
zorg1000 said:

Its not good because Switch is $100 less than PS4 was in 2014.

Were you trying to be sarcastic here because anyone knows that $100 makes a big difference. I can only imagine the difference it would have been if the PS4 was $299 in 2014.

Or the Switch launching with a retail price of 399$



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thismeintiel said:
tbone51 said:

Your narrative is "i cant let nintendo have any good news" lmao

This is good news.  Just not great.  Especially for those who were thinking the Switch would be the next Wii/PS4.  It didn't quite match the PS4's first Nov after launch, even though it was $100 cheaper and had little supply issue.  The PS4, however, did have supply issues that Nov, which caused a XBO victory for that month.  The PS4/Switch gap for 1st Nov could have easily been 200K+ without those issues.

The PS4 wasn't up against a $200 PS4 in its first November neither. It was up against the pariahs that were X1 and WiiU.

The two Novembers aren't very comparable.

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thismeintiel said:
tbone51 said:

Your narrative is "i cant let nintendo have any good news" lmao

This is good news.  Just not great.  Especially for those who were thinking the Switch would be the next Wii/PS4.  It didn't quite match the PS4's first Nov after launch, even though it was $100 cheaper and had little supply issue.  The PS4, however, did have supply issues that Nov, which caused a XBO victory for that month.  The PS4/Switch gap for 1st Nov could have easily been 200K+ without those issues.

See you i can actually have a conversation with without any biased towards a certain conpany. That said ps4 level of selling power is by far number 1 of any home console/handheld ever made. Yes Wii did well if not better but at the end of the day anything being directly compared to number 1 (especially from people like Lawlight) will always make it seem like it didnt do great.

 

To answer your question price isnt everything when it comes to gaming. It certainly a factor but again not 100%. Compare the Switch to 3ds for example. 3ds already cut the price and it was almost half of what switch ($170 vs $300) yet switch is coming on top (excluding japan because it still being held back by supply issues)

 

Things just happen, even if some people were expecting more, its still doing good. Switch is in possibly the best sitution after the SNES any1 can ask for (nintendo). Overlooking this one thing will certainty shake up people in the future

 

 

Edit: i forgot, switch has by far wayyyy more competition compared to ps4 first holiday season. Ps4 dealt only with Microsoft which had to cut price to compete with sony. WiiU was dead. Switch on the other hand has X1X launch and crazy deals with the os4 slim and x1s ($200/$190)



Mar1217 said:
zorg1000 said:

Its not good because Switch is $100 less than PS4 was in 2014.

It wasn't going against a 199$ 4yo console either

Isn’t the console being 4 years old a detriment to that console? And back in 2014, the PS4 was going against the $149 3DS and the $199 WiiU though. And the $330 Xbox One.



Lawlight said:
tbone51 said:

How do you feel about it being the 4th highest Nov for 1st year holidays? That

Pretty good. Now let’s put that into context - how much did you predict it would sell in November?

I didnt predict numbers. In my thread i predicted ps4>x1>switch and i was right.

 

That said what does any1 predictions have to do with an item selling well? According to you pokemon XY sold EXTREMELY well as you only predicted lifetime sales of 12mil and its closing in on 17mil



ThisGuyFooks said:
Lawlight said:

Were you trying to be sarcastic here because anyone knows that $100 makes a big difference. I can only imagine the difference it would have been if the PS4 was $299 in 2014.

Or the Switch launching with a retail price of 399$

Remember all the people that said $299 for Switch was way too high and it would fail because of it?

Now all of a sudden its only doing this well because its $299?



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