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Forums - Politics - Donald Trump: How Do You Feel about Him Now? (Poll)

 

Last November,

I supported him and I still do - Americas 91 15.77%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Americas 16 2.77%
 
I supported him and I still do - Europe 37 6.41%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Europe 7 1.21%
 
I supported him and I still do - Asia 6 1.04%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Asia 1 0.17%
 
I supported him and I still do - RoW 15 2.60%
 
I supported him and I now don't - RoW 2 0.35%
 
I didn't support him and still don't. 373 64.64%
 
I didn't support him and now do. 29 5.03%
 
Total:577

President Trump in response to winter today:

"We could use a little bit of global warming"

Look if we all die I just want to say that I think you guys are all pretty decent and I still believe in all of you.



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bdbdbd said:
Insidb said:

It doesn't qualify as news, so it's unlike the others. Also, being from New York has nothing to do with the fact that he's apparently mentally ill.

No one should argue that news outlets are not biased, as they all are biased towards what secures advertising dollars for their demographics.

I see a pattern here: you're calling out one news outlet for bullshit, whereas everyone else is pointing you out, that all the other news outlets are equally bullshit. Then you ignore what others just told you, and keep repeating your obvious dislike towards a certain news outlet. We heard you already, there's really no point in repeating it. See, people aren't actually even disagreeing you, only calling you out for your bias.

This is not accurate, at all.

I pointed out that they are ALL biased and that Fox is not news: propaganda.



TH3-D0S3R said:
Insidb said:

It doesn't qualify as news, so it's unlike the others. Also, being from New York has nothing to do with the fact that he's apparently mentally ill.

No one should argue that news outlets are not biased, as they all are biased towards what secures advertising dollars for their demographics.

You're implying words I never said. New York Business tycoons are different from New Yorkers in general. Stop mishearing words and actually try to develop a coherent argument instead of just trying to demonize the other side with words they/I never said.

That's called, "a contradiction."



Insidb said:
TH3-D0S3R said:

You're implying words I never said. New York Business tycoons are different from New Yorkers in general. Stop mishearing words and actually try to develop a coherent argument instead of just trying to demonize the other side with words they/I never said.

That's called, "a contradiction."

What is your point? I even said in my post you're referencing that he was a New York Businessman, so the sources aren't on your side. Again, make an ACTUAL argument instead of these pointless 'gotcha' lead-ins that have yet to work.



TH3-D0S3R said:
Insidb said:

That's called, "a contradiction."

What is your point? I even said in my post you're referencing that he was a New York Businessman, so the sources aren't on your side. Again, make an ACTUAL argument instead of these pointless 'gotcha' lead-ins that have yet to work.

You keep making generalizations and also seem to have a fixation on New York businessmen: have you traveled? This is not some sort of New York disease that emanates from Wall St. Trump is a narcissist and an egomaniac, but Hollywood is littered with those. Go to the south and you will find high-minded vanguards of the South or coked-up, Miami RE brokers. It's an American problem, and the point is a nonsensical generalization.

I made a factual point about the news that did not necessitate paragraphs of waxing poetic. It was axiomatic and straightforward a la Occam's razor. The points I make work, because they are accurate. The contradiction: you say I generalize and demonize, while you (Wait for it.) actually generalize and demonize.

Now you have more words to read, but the clarification should not have been necessary.



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Insidb said:
TH3-D0S3R said:

What is your point? I even said in my post you're referencing that he was a New York Businessman, so the sources aren't on your side. Again, make an ACTUAL argument instead of these pointless 'gotcha' lead-ins that have yet to work.

You keep making generalizations and also seem to have a fixation on New York businessmen: have you traveled? This is not some sort of New York disease that emanates from Wall St. Trump is a narcissist and an egomaniac, but Hollywood is littered with those. Go to the south and you will find high-minded vanguards of the South or coked-up, Miami RE brokers. It's an American problem, and the point is a nonsensical generalization.

I made a factual point about the news that did not necessitate paragraphs of waxing poetic. It was axiomatic and straightforward a la Occam's razor. The points I make work, because they are accurate. The contradiction: you say I generalize and demonize, while you (Wait for it.) actually generalize and demonize.

Now you have more words to read, but the clarification should not have been necessary.

Firstly, I will say that I was wrong in the sense that I misunderstood what you previously stated. When you said 'Also, being from New York has nothing to do with the fact that he's apparently mentally ill', I didn't see the he's part, and thought it was a jab at me just insulting all New Yorkers, which I didn't. That's the only reason why I was focusing on the businessman part, which is because I misread it. It would be like mishearing an interpretation of a quote you made about a group of people to sound negative, only to realize you misheard it and was instead referencing the original context. It's a whole thing of confusion, and that is my bad. I could go on a whole rant about how businessmen in NYC are different, but after pointing out this past confusion, I think it'd be quite pointless and rather not.

In this context I should not have said demonize because I misheard, and thus apologize. I stay by my initial stance before this giant tangent, but will accept defeat in this pointless mishearing.



TH3-D0S3R said:
Insidb said:

You keep making generalizations and also seem to have a fixation on New York businessmen: have you traveled? This is not some sort of New York disease that emanates from Wall St. Trump is a narcissist and an egomaniac, but Hollywood is littered with those. Go to the south and you will find high-minded vanguards of the South or coked-up, Miami RE brokers. It's an American problem, and the point is a nonsensical generalization.

I made a factual point about the news that did not necessitate paragraphs of waxing poetic. It was axiomatic and straightforward a la Occam's razor. The points I make work, because they are accurate. The contradiction: you say I generalize and demonize, while you (Wait for it.) actually generalize and demonize.

Now you have more words to read, but the clarification should not have been necessary.

Firstly, I will say that I was wrong in the sense that I misunderstood what you previously stated. When you said 'Also, being from New York has nothing to do with the fact that he's apparently mentally ill', I didn't see the he's part, and thought it was a jab at me just insulting all New Yorkers, which I didn't. That's the only reason why I was focusing on the businessman part, which is because I misread it. It would be like mishearing an interpretation of a quote you made about a group of people to sound negative, only to realize you misheard it and was instead referencing the original context. It's a whole thing of confusion, and that is my bad. I could go on a whole rant about how businessmen in NYC are different, but after pointing out this past confusion, I think it'd be quite pointless and rather not.

In this context I should not have said demonize because I misheard, and thus apologize. I stay by my initial stance before this giant tangent, but will accept defeat in this pointless mishearing.

Ships passing in the night, lost in translation, etc.



Look at this gem of a tweet he made:

“In the East, it could be the COLDEST New Year’s Eve on record. Perhaps we could use a little bit of that good old Global Warming that our Country, but not other countries, was going to pay TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS to protect against. Bundle up!”

He and his base are so fucking far gone and beyond all redemption. Anything less than putting him and his supporters in concentration camps will be a disservice to the human race



StarOcean said:
Look at this gem of a tweet he made:

In the East, it could be the COLDEST New Year’s Eve on record. Perhaps we could use a little bit of that good old Global Warming that our Country, but not other countries, was going to pay TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS to protect against. Bundle up!”

He and his base are so fucking far gone and beyond all redemption. Anything less than putting him and his supporters in concentration camps will be a disservice to the human race

I look forward to seeing someone defend the validity of this dumbass statement. You know it'll happen.



The fact that a "man" like Trump ever won a national election for anything, let alone President, is a sick joke.

Then again, the fact that our "only two" options at the end, because Americans allow the Big Two parties to brainwash them into believing that ONLY those two parties are ever viable, hence trapping us in neverending chessmatch between them, is also a sick joke.

Ultimately, in my view, America did this to themselves, as a nation, as a whole. For it to really come down to THOSE two choices at the end, honestly for me was the straw that broke the camel's back. I was already nearly done with American politics, and that finally did me in. I could not in good conscience vote for EITHER person, because both of them were corrupt morons. Would Clinton have been LESS embarrassing and LESS damaging as President? Absolutely. But that doesn't mean that voting for her felt like the "right thing" to do, either.

And frankly, I was/am sick to death of voting for "the lesser of two evils". You shouldn't vote for someone just to keep someone ELSE out. And if I couldn't vote for someone that I actually believed in, even a little bit, then I was done.