It begins..... that $199 price point we have been talking about all year. I'm surprised they both didn't come with a game though, but I am guessing there is still time for us to start seeing digital codes attached to these things.

Just realized that thats the 1TB PS4 at $199. That I definately didn't expect.

The XB1 has been getting the better BF deals at Target since 2014, so this isn't a surprise.

Look on the packaging.  

That 199$ 1TB PS4 model is gonna sell like crazy.

Might try to cop that four

You forgot PSVR, also for $199. You still need a camera though.

I didn't see the $199.99 PSVR. I already have the camera. I wish money wasn't as tight as it is right now, there was all kinds of stuff I wanted in that. I'd love to get a second PS4 so that I can take my Vader PS4 upstairs before the kids ruin it. $40 DS4 controllers ... woudln't mind a couple of them as well. Speaking of ... never mind ... I think I'll create a thread.

Do Black Friday console deals tend to be only for that day (or week considering many retailers tend to milk these sales events by stretching them out over a week) or are they generally permanent (or at the very least last through most of the holidays)?

Sony is going to heavily lose against switch and xboxone on bf

Why is Xbox cheaper? Surely it costs more to produce it then ps4?