All of you guys are being too harsh on Nintendo fans here. This is likely to be the most happening year Nintendo will see for a decade, let them make threads.
| NawaiNey said: On another note, as far as I know Ellie's mom died when Ellie was a Baby so say like 5 years into the infection breakout. That doesn't seem like enough time for a religious cult to gain any ground. So I'm not buying this scene being taking place before Ellie was even born. |
There are religious cults active right now so I wouln't use that to doubt the trailer. I'd also like to point out that the new tech ND are using means they can easily replace character faces whenever they like. I do think it's likely to be Ellie's mother but I'm not buying the set up at all. I'd be surprised if this scene plays out the way we've seen or whether ALL of those characters will even be in the finished scene.
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| GribbleGrunger said: The more I watch that trailer and read what Druckmann said, the more I think we're being lead astray. He's said the theme is 'hate' while the last game was 'love'. The first game's theme was far more nuanced than 'love' and I think the only reason he's boiled it down to that is so he can mislead us by suggesting the second game's theme is 'hate', also a rather flat theme. In this trailer we see what appears to be an integral antagonist getting killed. Why would they show us an integral character getting killed in a trailer? Even if she hasn't got a huge role to play, it's bound to spoil some aspects of the narrative. I'm not buying any of this. |
I wondered this as well and found it an odd decision due to its spoilerish nature
GribbleGrunger said:
There are religious cults active right now so I wouln't use that to doubt the trailer. I'd also like to point out that the new tech ND are using means they can easily replace character faces whenever they like. I do think it's likely to be Ellie's mother but I'm not buying the set up at all. I'd be surprised if this scene plays out the way we've seen or whether ALL of those characters will even be in the finished scene. |
Yes there are religious cult right now. I'm talking about a religious cult based around this infection though, as they call the infected "demons" and seem to have a whole lore and terminolgy for what's going on in the world. I just think it'd take more than a couple years to come up with all that let alone get people to buy into it.
| NawaiNey said: Yes there are religious cult right now. I'm talking about a religious cult based around this infection though, as they call the infected "demons" and seem to have a whole lore and terminolgy for what's going on in the world. I just think it'd take more than a couple years to come up with all that let alone get people to buy into it. |
Given a situation like TLOU, many (if not ALL) of the cults active right now would simply absorb the infection into their rhetoric. Perhaps even call the 'infected' a 'demon' ...
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NawaiNey said:
I'm pretty sure he said the theme of the first game was "Hope", not "Love". Anyway you're not the first person I've seen misquote him on that and likely won't be the last.
On another note, as far as I know Ellie's mom died when Ellie was a Baby so say like 5 years into the infection breakout. That doesn't seem like enough time for a religious cult to gain any ground. So I'm not buying this scene being taking place before Ellie was even born. |
I’m almost positive he said “love”. I remember immediately feeling worried about just how dark TLoU 2 would get, since TLoU was so dark despite having a positive emotion as its overarching theme, and now TLoU 2’s theme will focus on a negative emotion—the strongest of negative emotions, at that.
| pitzy272 said: I’m almost positive he said “love”. I remember immediately feeling worried about just how dark TLoU 2 would get, since TLoU was so dark despite having a positive emotion as its overarching theme, and now TLoU 2’s theme will focus on a negative emotion—the strongest of negative emotions, at that. |
He did. I couldn't find the exact video but I got a quote from him talking about it in an interview:
“If the first game was really about the love between these two characters, this story is the counter of that,” Druckmann explained early on. “This is story is about hate, through Ellie this time. The first game you play as Joel, this game you play as Ellie.”
https://kotaku.com/the-last-of-us-2-will-be-a-game-about-hate-1789662506
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