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think-man on 28 September 2017

I will be buying it. SE also are releasing a free patch today with added story content. They are showing good support for the game. I know people will complain that we shouldn't have to pay for a 2nd season pass, but do you really think a business is going to poor millions into developing something for free? Lot's of people have moved on from FFXV now, but at least when its all finished if people want to bag it for being incomplete, you can finally point at the complete edition and tell them to play that.



 

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Hynad on 28 September 2017
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Tabata is a hard worker but fuck off, ff15 was the game with the worst metacritic, wake up square, WAKE THE FUCK UP.

The milking to this game is out of this world, we will never get a ff16 ...

FF XVI won't be helmed by Tabata. So don't worry.

There's most likely a team in place working on pre-prod for it already. Hopefully, with Horiyuki Ito (ATB and gambit designer, director of FF VI, IX and XII) at the helm.



specialk on 28 September 2017

FFXV is a bad game. Getting more of a bad game won't make it better.

Also shame on OP for fake news.



V-r0cK on 28 September 2017

I really enjoyed FFXV regardless of the poor story execution but I'll wait for a FFXV ultimate edition that'll have all the DLC.

I really wonder how this game could've turned out if Square kept Tetsuya Nomura behind this. It could've been the FF game we all deserved :(



Wyrdness on 28 September 2017

You know I'm one of the few that doesn't mind FFXV but I can see why this is irritating people as it's coming across as selling the game and story separate.

Don't expect to see a FFXV-2 or FFXVI in the next 5 years or so as I have feeling XV is going to be loaded with loads of these DLCs in the coming years instead.



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deskpro2k3 on 28 September 2017
Hiku said:
deskpro2k3 said:

FFXIV is a mainline game. It is a numbered title for fans, and for new comers to mmos.

It's an MMO. The inclusion or omission of a number on the box is not what determines its category. Companies have included or omitted numerical titles for ages on both games and movies for PR purposes.



Just because it says Breath of Fire 6 on this mobile MMO does not mean that this travesty of a game is a mainline Breath of Fire game. They put the 6 there to get more fans interested.
And just because Midway removed the 2 from the western release of Shadow Hearts 2 and called it Covenant instead does not mean it's not a direct mainline sequel to the previous game in every sense of the word. It's because they knew most people in the west didn't know about the first game, and didn't want to scare them off with a 2 on the cover. Etc.



The bottom line is, call FFXIV whatever you want, but the target audience is largly different, and it's effect on the course of the "single player oriented" FF games is minimal. The only thing that can save the course of the "regular" series is to gain back the trust of fans by producing games in the regular series that lives up to fans expectations. Sales wise FFXV is doing well, but that doesn't mean FFXV didn't let them down. We'll see the effects of XV when the next game comes out.

he didn't, but this will make "ungrateful fans"

I'm a big FF fan, and even I can see that this is dumb and undefendable.

I'm also a big FF fan. But you haven't presented any reasoning for your claim.
The existence of story expansions does not automatically mean that the original story wasn't complete.

 

You know, I really [censored] hate having to repeat myself. MMO is a genre, FFXIV is also a Final Fantasy title. so every time you approach it, it is a Final Fantasy game. It's a numbered title, not a spin-off and holds to the same values and themes of a final fantasy. Sadly, people randomly disregard it because they can't really play it..

Anyways.. Original story in FFXV seems incomplete to me, but don't take my word for it, just look at the internet, and Tabata wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for that.



outlawauron on 28 September 2017
deskpro2k3 said:
Hiku said:

How the MMORPG's do financially is not going to determine the course of the mainline games, as they are generally intended for a different audience.
Final Fantasy Record Keeper is probably bringing in a lot more revenue, as it's been in the top 10 of both Android and iOS highest grossing apps in Japan for years, but that doesn't mean it saved the mainline FF franchise. It comes down to how confident fans of the mainline series are in purchasing the next one. We'll see what kind of effect XV had when XVI comes out.

 

FFXIV is a mainline game. It is a numbered title for fans, and for new comers to mmos.

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and they also said that FF15 was a blockbuster success. They're doing pretty good at the moment.



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irstupid on 28 September 2017
deskpro2k3 said:
Hiku said:

It's an MMO. The inclusion or omission of a number on the box is not what determines its category. Companies have included or omitted numerical titles for ages on both games and movies for PR purposes.



Just because it says Breath of Fire 6 on this mobile MMO does not mean that this travesty of a game is a mainline Breath of Fire game. They put the 6 there to get more fans interested.
And just because Midway removed the 2 from the western release of Shadow Hearts 2 and called it Covenant instead does not mean it's not a direct mainline sequel to the previous game in every sense of the word. It's because they knew most people in the west didn't know about the first game, and didn't want to scare them off with a 2 on the cover. Etc.



The bottom line is, call FFXIV whatever you want, but the target audience is largly different, and it's effect on the course of the "single player oriented" FF games is minimal. The only thing that can save the course of the "regular" series is to gain back the trust of fans by producing games in the regular series that lives up to fans expectations. Sales wise FFXV is doing well, but that doesn't mean FFXV didn't let them down. We'll see the effects of XV when the next game comes out.

he didn't, but this will make "ungrateful fans"

I'm a big FF fan, and even I can see that this is dumb and undefendable.

I'm also a big FF fan. But you haven't presented any reasoning for your claim.
The existence of story expansions does not automatically mean that the original story wasn't complete.

 

You know, I really [censored] hate having to repeat myself. MMO is a genre, FFXIV is also a Final Fantasy title. so every time you approach it, it is a Final Fantasy game. It's a numbered title, not a spin-off and holds to the same values and themes of a final fantasy. Sadly, people randomly disregard it because they can't really play it..

Anyways.. Original story in FFXV seems incomplete to me, but don't take my word for it, just look at the internet, and Tabata wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for that.

What makes FF14 and different than a Crystal Chronicles, or any other "spin-off" game that you could mention?

What makes FF15 different than Crystal Chronicles or any other FF "spin-off" you can mention?

Nothing. They are all unique games, stories,  set in different universes. Not talking X-2's or sequals, prequels, ect. But the many final fantasy games that are in their own unique world yet don't get an official number. Think of all the Nintendo final fantasies since the #'rd ones went to Sony.

But mainline Final Fantasy. GIve me a break. All the # at the end signifies is that this is the game their main staff should be working on. Like the Mario staff is working on Odyssey and not Paper Mario or other mario games. But I don't believe that is the case with their MMO's, so their # is purely a PR reason for getting more sales. Seeing the title FF11, or FF14 will get people to buy it versus some random just words after final fantasy. People will see that as a spinoff.



deskpro2k3 on 28 September 2017
irstupid said:
deskpro2k3 said:

 

You know, I really [censored] hate having to repeat myself. MMO is a genre, FFXIV is also a Final Fantasy title. so every time you approach it, it is a Final Fantasy game. It's a numbered title, not a spin-off and holds to the same values and themes of a final fantasy. Sadly, people randomly disregard it because they can't really play it..

Anyways.. Original story in FFXV seems incomplete to me, but don't take my word for it, just look at the internet, and Tabata wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for that.

What makes FF14 and different than a Crystal Chronicles, or any other "spin-off" game that you could mention?

What makes FF15 different than Crystal Chronicles or any other FF "spin-off" you can mention?

Nothing. They are all unique games, stories,  set in different universes. Not talking X-2's or sequals, prequels, ect. But the many final fantasy games that are in their own unique world yet don't get an official number. Think of all the Nintendo final fantasies since the #'rd ones went to Sony.

But mainline Final Fantasy. GIve me a break. All the # at the end signifies is that this is the game their main staff should be working on. Like the Mario staff is working on Odyssey and not Paper Mario or other mario games. But I don't believe that is the case with their MMO's, so their # is purely a PR reason for getting more sales. Seeing the title FF11, or FF14 will get people to buy it versus some random just words after final fantasy. People will see that as a spinoff.

 

This thread is not about FFXIV, but let me hit you with some thought provoking words just for good measures, to steer us back on course.

What makes them different than crystal chronicles or any other FF "spin-off"? Plot, storyline, character progression, etc.  Go play FFXIV for yourself, and I'm not going to take your speculation about what a PR is or is not, that is just rubbish.



Wright on 28 September 2017
think-man said:
I will be buying it. SE also are releasing a free patch today with added story content. They are showing good support for the game. I know people will complain that we shouldn't have to pay for a 2nd season pass, but do you really think a business is going to poor millions into developing something for free? Lot's of people have moved on from FFXV now, but at least when its all finished if people want to bag it for being incomplete, you can finally point at the complete edition and tell them to play that.

A better business, however, would be releasing a game that don't really tease you hard with missing content that they later sell separatedly, thus draining the game itself from pre-existing value. We shouldn't be needing a Gladio scar DLC if the game had just gave a mere attempt at explaining's Gladio's absence during Chapter 7, for example (but there's absolutely NOTHING. He gets a scar and THAT'S IT, no one else inquires about it save for a passing Prompto comment). It's cool that they give free updates (though it's still mindblowing to me that some of these free updates are timed, like what the fuck, this ain't a MMO Tabata), but look at how misguided some of these updates are. They basically made a Assassin's Creed mash-up that gives one of the original game's bosses more screentime than the entirety of XV's; like where are the priorities here?

EDIT: Oh yeah, let's not forget Tabata said those Gladio/Prompto/Ignis' DLCs have absolutely zero plans to be implemented in the game itself.

And basically like I said earlier, I doubt they'll actually adress any XV's internal story problem. It's too late to fix any nonsense past Chapter 9. The best thing they could come up with was bringing up some multiplayer aspect to try and tie every loose end.