It sucks so I guess they might have to move to an industrialized nation instead of living in a developed nation with lot's of automation or live as the lowest form of human life ... 

Another option could be is to just wait until tissue engineering can get advanced enough to enhance cognitive function and then these people can get enhanced and start contributing to society again ... 

It's harder than you think to improve upon a pure computer and transistor technology is reaching it's limits so we'll still need human brains in the forseeable future to advance research ... (It takes a lot of power to emulate the top minds on this earth.) 

Just as there is a limit to a human brain there's also limits for deep learning too ... 

Even if we assume that full AGI is developed later than gene altering technology and tissue engineering advanced enough to significantly increase intelligence, what do those people do in the mean time? I agree it's a long time until we can completely replace human mindpower, but like I said, our society isn't fit to even cope with a 60% unemployment rate, and I'd like to see a world where a whopping 40% of the workforce are scientists/researchers/programmers. To support that, you need both a massive change in the educational system, as well as a means for all those soon-to-be unemployed to support themselves financially.

That's why I'm saying we have to start looking at solutions now. Even though society isn't ripe for implementing them yet, we can't just stop looking at solutions until the problem is too big to ignore.

We could start with subsidizing post-secondary for certain majors but that's it for now ... 

Besides, doing mechanical maintenance for robotics is still relatively menial ... (although maybe not as menial the job of a janitor or other manual labour) 

We could also lower the requirements for some jobs to just require cetain classes instead of getting the full degree ... (specialization is the way to go these days) 

Oh come on, you don't think we need human mechanics doing robotic maintenance?...

And yes, those are all good ideas for solving the educational part of the problem, but it still won't solve the social and economical part. Like I said, a 60% unemployment rate is still too high for current society.

I didn't implicate that ... 

I said doing mechanics is an easy enough job for just about anybody to do and what's more is we still need jobs for resource management ... 

Yes, I can see it ... (most of the population will go back to relatively 'high-tech' agriculture where 1 farmer will be able grow everything he needs with the tools in a painless manner and have a self-sufficient life whereas 'data' will be used by engineers and scientists for 'high-tech' manufacturing in cities) 

agriculture -> industrial -> service -> agriculture (high-tech) -> industrial (space ?) ... 

There you go, we have a 'circle of life' LOL ... (I guess 'de-urbanization' will be a thing but it won't be so bad with the advances and I guess trade will center around scarce and valuable produce used for medicine or other important process, etc)

That is because what you consider poverty is what most countries consider middle class, and what we consider poverty for you is famine. That is what I talked about increasing standard.

And you can see on that comparison that perhaps USA is about 30% more expensive to live, but our minimum wage is less than 300 USD/month. I can assure you that there are dozen of millions that have families of 5 or more living on 1 or 2 minimum wage here.

30k USD/year would be the earning of less than 10% of our population. And actually this 12k/year UBI would account to basically 80% of our GDP per capita.

We know that people will say they hate maths or that history and philosophy are more important, or how relevant is some odd graduation... and after they will complain at how little that profession earn.

Nope, government rob people of their on right, unless you consider that the elected politicians are executing the will of the people. If that is true then all the complains about the government is baseless.

Sorry but the bigger the government the lesser the citizen is still true. The government being bigger and more present is just used to the advantage of big corporations.

More in-depth reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income

I'm in the same boat as Layton. I'm intrigued - skeptical, but interested - and I'm not going to act like an educated economist and comment on whether it'll work because I simply don't know.

But the way things like this work is to simply try reducing the wealth disparity by guaranteeing everybody can at least live by the minimum required to get by, and by significantly increasing taxes on the wealthy and luxury items.

Also there is usually a set of requirements that must be met to qualify for your basic income package, so not quite *everybody* will receive them.

It would destroy the low skill labor market and increase prices across the board. There would be no legitimate growth and it would have a negative impact on everyone’s savings. The ONLY way this would be acceptable is if it replaced already on the books entitlements that bleed money in red tape. Giving the people direct access to their entitlement funds would have a net positive over the loss of value through the government administrative process. 

Socialism. Great, we'd become a milk toast country like Canada where in the grand scheme of human existance means less to nothing. No thank you, the US government is already paying thousands in entitlements already. Simply turn one or two of them into direct payments and you might actually see a benefit from direct injection over government statist waste. 

Or

End the Fed and IRS