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NATO said:
Soundwave said:

What other alternatives to standing up to a bully are worth mentioning? Buying him a cake perhaps? He is not going to cease his behavior. Large scale protests have groups like the KKK largely in check and prevented their growth in many ways. 

> Reporting the abuse to a teacher
> Reporting the abuse to a parent or sibling
> Attempting to address the situation directly with the bully
> Skipping the chain of command and reporting the abuse directly to a principal or school board
> Documenting the abuse and reporting to the police

Believe it or not, there are amicable ways to resolve a situation with much better results than resorting to conflict.

Also if large scale protests have groups like the KKK largely in check, what part of someone driving in to a large crowd in a mustang seems "in check" to you? and what part of the thousands upon thousands of neo-nazi groups the world over are put in check by protests in the US alone?

And you think that somehow said groups would be less in number if they were allowed to talk around and do as they pleased unopposed. 

That's fine if you believe that. To me that's just not the planet we're living on, it's a nice ideal to have though. 



Soundwave said:
o_O.Q said:

 

"The point is again not to change views"

 

so its simply about permanently dividing the population... doesn't sound like much of a solution to me but whatever

 

"It's partly why "conversative" movement is an oxymoron in itself"

 

despite progress there are certain values that have to be retained for a society to function so no that's wrong

 

"Humanity will obviously evolve, eventually probably into something we today won't even recoginize."

 

human society for observable history has been cyclical and not a linear pogression as you appear to believe

civilisation rises to great heights then people lose track of what the foundation of their society is and everything falls to ashes and eventually civilisation is born again from the ashes

we saw it with mesopothamia, egypt, rome, etc etc etc, but maybe this time we may be able to save our civilisation, but i'm doubtful about that honestly

"Civilizations" are not the be all, end all. Civilizations come and go, humanity goes on. 

Humanity will radically transform into something different over the next 200 years anyway.

Your grand children may have the choice of not dying for example. That very well actually could happen. Wrap your head around that. 

 

as long as the human race exists there will be civilisations since all civilisations are is the shared resources between people

the transhumanism idea that through our technology we'll eventually dismiss with all of the limitations of human beings is a silly idea to me but regardless transhumanism will not deal with the problem of differing ideas causing conflict between people



ClassicGamingWizzz said:

 

Trumps America

 

 

Keep defending these cunts, you guys are such winners !!!

 

 

the other side:

 

 

pretending that only one side commits violent acts is fucking silly

i suppose you can make the argument that so far no one has been killed due to violence from leftist supporters



VGPolyglot said:
jason1637 said:

Its better to have a peaceful protest. You can't fight fire with fire. The civil rights movement is a great example of this. If there weren't peaceful protest I doubt that segregation would have ended when it did.

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You say that you can't fight fire with fire, but you also can't just fight fire by just standing there and letting it engulf you.

Right. You can't just sit back and let the hate eclipse you. That's what they're counting on. They've taken to every form of social media to embolden themselves, and it's only going to get worse. The whole idea of the farthest right in this country is to turn back the clock on civil rights and push for a generation of extremists. Apparently, words aren't going to be good enough for them soon. It's going to have to be pushed back against by any means necessary.  



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o_O.Q said:
Soundwave said:

"Civilizations" are not the be all, end all. Civilizations come and go, humanity goes on. 

Humanity will radically transform into something different over the next 200 years anyway.

Your grand children may have the choice of not dying for example. That very well actually could happen. Wrap your head around that. 

 

as long as the human race exists there will be civilisations since all civilisations are is the shared resources between people

the transhumanism idea that through our technology we'll eventually dismiss with all of the limitations of human beings is a silly idea to me but regardless transhumanism will not deal with the problem of differing ideas causing conflict between people

We're headed there regardless. Look at things like CRISPR technology is today and where that will be in 100 years time. Doesn't take a genius to see where that's going. 

It doesn't deal with conflict, no, conflict is inate to humans, but it will eventually likely destroy the existing concept of race that we've allowed ourselves to be so defined by. When children basically all have traits that are selected by their parents in the same way you choose toppings on a pizza today, it kinda just renders the whole stupid arguement moot. 



Soundwave said:
o_O.Q said:

 

as long as the human race exists there will be civilisations since all civilisations are is the shared resources between people

the transhumanism idea that through our technology we'll eventually dismiss with all of the limitations of human beings is a silly idea to me but regardless transhumanism will not deal with the problem of differing ideas causing conflict between people

We're headed there regardless. Look at things like CRISPR technology is today and where that will be in 100 years time. Doesn't take a genius to see where that's going. 

It doesn't deal with conflict, no, conflict is inate to humans, but it will eventually likely destroy the existing concept of race that we've allowed ourselves to be so defined by. When children basically all have traits that are selected by their parents in the same way you choose toppings on a pizza today, it kinda just renders the whole stupid arguement moot. 

 

and then we'll simply move on to looking for other differences to argue about... so what?

the point is that it can be managed to a degree only with dialogue because dialogue is how people structure their ability to think and conceptualise things

calling people evil and shutting them out from dialogue does nothing to aid the problem

 

"We're headed there regardless."

 

and no i don't think we are headed and will ever be headed to a point where we can dismiss the innate limitations of human beings, furthermore i don't think that's necessarily even a bad thing since being limited gives people a path forward in life



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o_O.Q said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:

Trumps America

Keep defending these cunts, you guys are such winners !!!

the other side:

pretending that only one side commits violent acts is fucking silly

i suppose you can make the argument that so far no one has been killed due to violence from leftist supporters

You know what's fucking silly? Comparing a guy getting hit in the head to a guy driving his car into a crowd of people. You're comparing an act of violence with an act of terrorism.