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Captain_Yuri said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Pretty sure the uncensored ones wouldn't be a disappointment after it

M8. Uncensored doesn't automatically mean good. There is a lot of things that goes into making porn and the Japanese have mastered the art of what makes yuri PoV, yuri PoV. I have been searching another yuri PoV that is even close to this one but alas, it wasn't meant to be. The problem with western PoV is they havn't mastered the camera work nessessary to make PoV work. The immersion just isn't there cause of sloppy directors but the Japanese are stupidly good at it and thus, even though there are minecraft blocks down there, this porno has captured the soul of yuri PoV (after u skip to the 40 minute mark) thus making it better than every other uncensored western PoV out there.

Once you watch enough porn, the same old gets tiring and the Japanese continues to innovate while the west lags behind. The only advantage the west has is uncensored porn but the techniques and direction in Japan far out do the west in that regard.

Eh I prefer the uncensored "japanese porn". The actresses are not always S tier and the video length is terrible, but I can't take or support the censorship.



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Farsala said:
Captain_Yuri said:

M8. Uncensored doesn't automatically mean good. There is a lot of things that goes into making porn and the Japanese have mastered the art of what makes yuri PoV, yuri PoV. I have been searching another yuri PoV that is even close to this one but alas, it wasn't meant to be. The problem with western PoV is they havn't mastered the camera work nessessary to make PoV work. The immersion just isn't there cause of sloppy directors but the Japanese are stupidly good at it and thus, even though there are minecraft blocks down there, this porno has captured the soul of yuri PoV (after u skip to the 40 minute mark) thus making it better than every other uncensored western PoV out there.

Once you watch enough porn, the same old gets tiring and the Japanese continues to innovate while the west lags behind. The only advantage the west has is uncensored porn but the techniques and direction in Japan far out do the west in that regard.

Eh I prefer the uncensored "japanese porn". The actresses are not always S tier and the video length is terrible, but I can't take or support the censorship.

I don't support censorship either but it's usually just too "normal"

Plus I am not exactly buying it so neh. Not gonna matter either ways :P



                  

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JRPGfan said:
Qwark said:
No because you don't hate gay people. I don't like to see gay or straight couples French kissing either in public either. Do that shit at home. That doesn't make me a straightophobic (or something like that). Homophobia is hating gays for what they are. You don't care about that, you just don't want to have to see it. So no you are not homophobic. It's not the natural biological state for males to mate thus you are disgusted by it. Thete is nothing wrong with that. Besides most guys I know don't like to say gays kissing or going at it, but still treat gay people the same as regular people.

This is a sad statement imo.

Signs of affection, such as a hug or kiss,hand holding, are hardly worthy of being offensive.

Crazy world we live in, all this violence in movies & tv, but show a boob on tv world goes nuts.

Two people in love kissing outsides? the horror!

There's a difference between french kissing and a regular kiss/peck.

 

I would never go smooching around in public- it's just gross. I wouldn't want gays, straights, or myself giving french kisses in public. It's especially worse when I see couples adding sound effects as they make intense love to each other. 

 



Captain_Yuri said:
Farsala said:

Eh I prefer the uncensored "japanese porn". The actresses are not always S tier and the video length is terrible, but I can't take or support the censorship.

I don't support censorship either but it's usually just too "normal"

Plus I am not exactly buying it so neh. Not gonna matter either ways :P

To be fair I am pretty picky, most western productions are trash to me.

OT: And as it relates to the topic so we don't derail, it is hard for me to watch men in any porn. So watching 2 men would be twice as bad. I think it is just my personal tastes though, and if the genres I prefer didn't exist I would probably take up the other genres.



Nem said:
Ok... i sighed at "agnostic" because agnostic isn't a thing. It's just beeing afraid of saying you're atheist because it's the same exact thing.


How does agnostic mean you're afraid to be an atheist?

Atheists are confident in the fact that there isn't a superior deity who controls the world. Agnostics don't believe in any religion specifically, but they don't deny the possibility that there may be some sort of figure above us. it just may not be Jesus/Allah/whatever in their eyes



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JWeinCom said:
TargaryenVers2 said:

If that was the case, people's inpulses to be racist/sexist would still be fully intact in society and we would have a very different world

There is a difference between an intellectual belief, for example one group of people is inherently inferior, or a gut reaction, like ewww.  

Most people, especially people in power, can't differentiate the two and make laws and shift societal views based on those gut reactions 



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monocle_layton said:
Nem said:
Ok... i sighed at "agnostic" because agnostic isn't a thing. It's just beeing afraid of saying you're atheist because it's the same exact thing.


How does agnostic mean you're afraid to be an atheist?

Atheists are confident in the fact that there isn't a superior deity who controls the world. Agnostics don't believe in any religion specifically, but they don't deny the possibility that there may be some sort of figure above us. it just may not be Jesus/Allah/whatever in their eyes

Not exactly...

Gnostic comes from the greek gnostos meaning knowledge.  If you are gnostic about any claim then you are claiming it with certainty.  If you're agnostic you're not claiming certainty.

Being an atheist just means you'd say "no" to the question "do you accept that there is a god".  It doesn't, on its own, imply confidence that there is no god.  If you are certain (or very confident) there is no god, you'd be an gnostic atheist.  If you don't believe it, but don't necessarily claim to know it for a fact, you'd be an agnostic atheist.  You can also be an agnostic theist or a gnostic theist.  They're not mutually exclusive terms.

People do use the terms as you do, but I think that's confusing.  Because if you asked me about my position regarding any god existing, I'd classify myself as an agnostic atheist.  As in, I don't believe it, but I don't know.  If you asked me if I believed in the judeochristian god, I'd classify myself as a gnostic atheist.  I'm pretty sure that doesn't exist.  If you're using gnostic or agnostic those terms have no meaning on their own.  They have to be attached to a specific claim.

TargaryenVers2 said:
JWeinCom said:

There is a difference between an intellectual belief, for example one group of people is inherently inferior, or a gut reaction, like ewww.  

Most people, especially people in power, can't differentiate the two and make laws and shift societal views based on those gut reactions 

Then you change the laws, beccause those are based on logic and reason.  Logically, I am convinced that there is no problem with gay people showing affection in public.  So, if there was a law to ban gay PDAs I'd be against it.

But feelings are not always (maybe not even usually) based on logic.  So, if I see gay people making out, I might still be all like ewww even if I logically don't think it's wrong.



JWeinCom said:
TargaryenVers2 said:

Most people, especially people in power, can't differentiate the two and make laws and shift societal views based on those gut reactions 

Then you change the laws, beccause those are based on logic and reason.  Logically, I am convinced that there is no problem with gay people showing affection in public.  So, if there was a law to ban gay PDAs I'd be against it.

But feelings are not always (maybe not even usually) based on logic.  So, if I see gay people making out, I might still be all like ewww even if I logically don't think it's wrong.

Again, many of those in power use feelings instead of logic to dictate political decisions, because they are voted by the people, which also use gut feelings and what they think is "gross," which is why many states in the US still lags behind regarding lgbt rights (as well as climate change, healthcare, etc), as well as for the longest time racial and sex inequality.

I'm fine with individuals thinking I'm gross, I couldn't care less. The problem is those discomforts internalize for many people and change voting patterns for people that ultimately lead to negative consequences for the lgbt community. 



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Yerm said:
i have a very logical mindset, and because of that I have a hard time trying to convince myself that homosexuals are perfectly normal people because logically homosexuals make no sense.

I had a similar train of thought to that, especially regarding adoption rights. I don't take sides, our country already denied that right in a referendum, but I do like a discussion. Especially when one of the most common arguments is that being gay is natural. But is it also natural for two male humans to produce a child? No, it's not. Always get attacked when I point it out. Am I a homophobe for that?

Jumpin said:
vivster said:

There is no problem with growing up and developing different likes. What I find attractive and what not is my deal and it doesn't have anything to do with certain tendencies.

There are a lot of things in women that I don't find attractive. Body weight, skin color, size of lips, hairstyle, hair color, the shape of genitals etc. I fail to see how that is wrong or something to be ashamed of. It's just superficial. I also don't like coconut.

Sounds like you're trying to jump through hoops to not admit to being a little bit internally racist.

According to this, I'm racist towards my girlfriend. Man, she won't be happy to hear that.



JWeinCom said:
monocle_layton said:

How does agnostic mean you're afraid to be an atheist?

Atheists are confident in the fact that there isn't a superior deity who controls the world. Agnostics don't believe in any religion specifically, but they don't deny the possibility that there may be some sort of figure above us. it just may not be Jesus/Allah/whatever in their eyes

Not exactly...

Gnostic comes from the greek gnostos meaning knowledge.  If you are gnostic about any claim then you are claiming it with certainty.  If you're agnostic you're not claiming certainty.

Being an atheist just means you'd say "no" to the question "do you accept that there is a god".  It doesn't, on its own, imply confidence that there is no god.  If you are certain (or very confident) there is no god, you'd be an gnostic atheist.  If you don't believe it, but don't necessarily claim to know it for a fact, you'd be an agnostic atheist.  You can also be an agnostic theist or a gnostic theist.  They're not mutually exclusive terms.

People do use the terms as you do, but I think that's confusing.  Because if you asked me about my position regarding any god existing, I'd classify myself as an agnostic atheist.  As in, I don't believe it, but I don't know.  If you asked me if I believed in the judeochristian god, I'd classify myself as a gnostic atheist.  I'm pretty sure that doesn't exist.  If you're using gnostic or agnostic those terms have no meaning on their own.  They have to be attached to a specific claim.

Thanks for the info about its origins. I can see where you're coming from now