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Forums - Sales Discussion - Media Create/Famitsu/Dengeki - May 15th - 21st 2017

the_dengle on 25 May 2017
Lawlight said:

Because the price difference between the models is what determines if people are going for the newer model or the older one.

That doesn't really answer my question unless you want me to believe that Sony gamers are cheap while Nintendo gamers are willing to pay a premium for better hardware.



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Lawlight on 25 May 2017
the_dengle said:
Lawlight said:

Because the price difference between the models is what determines if people are going for the newer model or the older one.

That doesn't really answer my question unless you want me to believe that Sony gamers are cheap while Nintendo gamers are willing to pay a premium for better hardware.

There's $29 difference between the New 3DS and the New 3DS LL in Japan. Paying $29 more is not paying a premium. However, paying $158 more is. As you can see there's a big jump from PS4 to PS4 Pro compared to New 3DS and New 3DS LL.



the_dengle on 25 May 2017
Lawlight said:

There's $29 difference between the New 3DS and the New 3DS LL in Japan. Paying $29 more is not paying a premium. However, paying $158 more is. As you can see there's a big jump from PS4 to PS4 Pro compared to New 3DS and New 3DS LL.

New 3DS LL is not better hardware than the New 3DS. It is only a bigger screen. It is better hardware than the 2DS. How much less does that cost?



Miyamotoo on 25 May 2017
Lawlight said:
RolStoppable said:

Yes, the weeks post-Golden Week are the toughest period of the year. I think it was two years ago that a May week hit an all-time low for Media Create hardware sales tracking (MC tracks since ~20 years).

I am not sure if Switch is selling through all of its shipments right now. At 40k a week, that would leave ~30k units on store shelves from the past two weeks. Or maybe Nintendo adjusted the allocations for the individual regions because demand in North America is notably higher right now. 25-30k units per week for Japan still result in a comfortable #1 spot and that's what good PR is about; Nintendo wants to hit it big in the USA too.

Increased Switch production should become visible by July, or more specifically, by the time Splatoon 2 launches.

Increased Switch production was visible in March when they shipped 700k units more than initially planned.

No, those extra 700k units were shipped via airplane at end of March, and they are most likely units that meant to be shipped for post launch sales.

Increasing production requires time (espacily doubling production) it can't be done over night.

 

 

Lawlight said:
aikohualda said:

more like everywhere....

I hope you're not including AU, UK, Italy and Mexico in the everywhere category. Even the US has the Switch easily available.

Yes in AU and in Italy is available, but that isn't case for US, Japan, UK and some other European countries and you clearly talking nonsense. 

Switch wouldn't have price of $425 on Amazon US if is "easily available".

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=nintendo+switch&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Anintendo+switch



Jranation on 25 May 2017

Someone is still in denial......



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Bofferbrauer on 25 May 2017
Lawlight said:

Amazon... You're welcome. Also:

http://www.istocknow.com/product/switch

half of europe wouldn't have gotten a single Switch in the last 30 days while many others haven't changed stock in the same period

And I know from 2 friends in Germany that they are still waiting for their Switch they ordered on Amazon, but according to the map they're everywhere

Seems totally legit



Bofferbrauer on 25 May 2017
Lawlight said:
the_dengle said:

That doesn't really answer my question unless you want me to believe that Sony gamers are cheap while Nintendo gamers are willing to pay a premium for better hardware.

There's $29 difference between the New 3DS and the New 3DS LL in Japan. Paying $29 more is not paying a premium. However, paying $158 more is. As you can see there's a big jump from PS4 to PS4 Pro compared to New 3DS and New 3DS LL.

At least make the correct comparision if you want to make a point, and pick the New 3DS LL (the bestselling model in Japan after all) compared to the  original 3DS and 3DS LL, not the New 3DS; that would be like comparing the price of a PS4 to the PS4 slim



Miyamotoo on 25 May 2017

Talking about how strong demand and shortages for Switch are:

Shops in Japan offering to buy used Switches for over rrp! self.NintendoSwitch
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/6d6q4n/shops_in_japan_offering_to_buy_used_switches_for/

"Went to the mall, saw a games shop offering 36,000 yen to buy used switches.

New price is 29,000 plus tax!

Shows how short the supply is here. I bought mine from a scalper for 39,000 one week after release.

Crazy stuff...."



Mummelmann on 25 May 2017
the_dengle said:
Why are people impressed by the PS4 vs Pro sales ratio? It's worse than 2:1 in the old model's favor. Compare to the 3DS which always heavily favored the newest & usually most expensive model.

Can't speak for anyone else, but I'm merely surprised. I figured my post on how unimpressive it is that the Pro has only managed to slightly slow a global decline would have at least made my position clear on the subject. Or perhaps I wasn't included in this reference. That's my stance though; I'm genuinely unimpressed by the PS4 Pro and the PS4 and its performance overall on a global scale, when compared to the expectations and hyperbole of certain users, the immense lack of competition and the fairly reasonable pricing throughout its cycle thus far. Relatively speaking, it's not doing nearly as amazing as many would have it.



the_dengle on 25 May 2017
Mummelmann said:

Can't speak for anyone else, but I'm merely surprised. I figured my post on how unimpressive it is that the Pro has only managed to slightly slow a global decline would have at least made my position clear on the subject. Or perhaps I wasn't included in this reference. That's my stance though; I'm genuinely unimpressed by the PS4 Pro and the PS4 and its performance overall on a global scale, when compared to the expectations and hyperbole of certain users, the immense lack of competition and the fairly reasonable pricing throughout its cycle thus far. Relatively speaking, it's not doing nearly as amazing as many would have it.

I guess it was a misreading of your post combined with kerotan's post that gave me that impression.

I assumed previously that the Pro would be doing well in the West, if it's doing worse there than in Japan (relative to the regular or slim models) it must be somewhat disappointing for Sony.