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COKTOE on 02 May 2017
SegataSanshiro said:
COKTOE said:

At the risk of looking like a douche in the eyes of some people, I do too. Retarded League just looks and sounds better. Plus, it would have been funny to see the mods edit the title down to Mentally Challenged League. This reminded me of a bit from one of my favs, Doug Stanhope. I can't find the clip. It may have been taken down. Even though it lacks his trademark cadence, here's the quote:

"

  • The thing with the word 'retarded' is that 'retarded' is not like other epithets, it was not a word of hatred; retarded was the medical definition, was actually a word actually born in sensitivity. Cause they used to call them, before retarded was the word, doctors would use 'imbecile' or 'moron.' This is something a smart fuck at Harvard has labelled 'The Euphemism Treadmill': moron and imbecile were the correct terms for a while, and what happened is we co-opted those words to call our friend when he does something incredibly stupid, to the point where it became an insult. So out of sensitivity, they changed the word to 'retarded'... and what happened was we co-opted that word to call our friend when he does something incredibly stupid. So you can keep changing the word, and if you make the new one stick that's what I'm going to call my friend. "Did you just put a metal plate in a microwave? What are you, developmentally disabled? You don't fucking put a metal plate in a microwave, who doesn't know that?" You can make it as difficult to pronounce and Latin-based and medical-rooted, and if you make it stick that's the new word I'm going to call my friend when he trips over his own shoelaces: "Ha ha! You just exhibited some of the atlantoaxial instability that is usually associated with the trisomie 21 genetic imbalance!"

 My sister was born in 1970 and she had 1 exta chromosone. SHe was clinically labeled retarded and became a literaly textbook case taught in medical journals. So yeah I am fine with the word retarded. I just hate people making assumptions anyone with austism can't play games (as my previous post goe sinto detail about) and using Mentally Challenged as a way to belittle others. Op threw a tantrum and honestly his title and post should now be allowed.

When it come to terminology like this, it's definitely important where it's coming from, who it's directed at, as well as it's context. I certainly don't fault anybody for finding it offensive. I'm pretty easy on this stuff in general.



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VGPolyglot on 02 May 2017
COKTOE said:
KLXVER said:

Well I think retarded should be ok. Its such a great word to use. Not to describe people with autism or anything like that of course, but that word is just too good to censor. Calling your friends that for doing something stupid or to describe a horrible idea and stuff like that. Its perfect.

At the risk of looking like a douche in the eyes of some people, I do too. Retarded League just looks and sounds better. Plus, it would have been funny to see the mods edit the title down to Mentally Challenged League. This reminded me of a bit from one of my favs, Doug Stanhope. I can't find the clip. It may have been taken down. Even though it lacks his trademark cadence, here's the quote:

"

  • The thing with the word 'retarded' is that 'retarded' is not like other epithets, it was not a word of hatred; retarded was the medical definition, was actually a word actually born in sensitivity. Cause they used to call them, before retarded was the word, doctors would use 'imbecile' or 'moron.' This is something a smart fuck at Harvard has labelled 'The Euphemism Treadmill': moron and imbecile were the correct terms for a while, and what happened is we co-opted those words to call our friend when he does something incredibly stupid, to the point where it became an insult. So out of sensitivity, they changed the word to 'retarded'... and what happened was we co-opted that word to call our friend when he does something incredibly stupid. So you can keep changing the word, and if you make the new one stick that's what I'm going to call my friend. "Did you just put a metal plate in a microwave? What are you, developmentally disabled? You don't fucking put a metal plate in a microwave, who doesn't know that?" You can make it as difficult to pronounce and Latin-based and medical-rooted, and if you make it stick that's the new word I'm going to call my friend when he trips over his own shoelaces: "Ha ha! You just exhibited some of the atlantoaxial instability that is usually associated with the trisomie 21 genetic imbalance!"

I think the term retarded comes from the French word retard, which means slow.



m0ney on 02 May 2017
dongo8 said:
Just a couple of things. First, Rocket League is one of the most brilliant and entertaining sports games I have ever played. Second, I can empathize a little with you because I know what getting bad teammates online is like, sometimes it is baffling how they reached the rank that they did with their horrible skill level. That being said, you have to be willing to change the way you play the game to fit in with the randoms you get. Are they ball chasing nincompoops? Stay back, play d and clear the ball out of your end. Are they wait and see what the other team does sort of players? Be aggressive, get on the ball and force the play yourself. Are they defensive? In that case, once again you are the aggressor and need to center as much as possible and make plays.

I have run into every sort of teammate on that game, and I can tell you right now there are games where I come out KNOWING that we should have lost the game because of how atrocious my teammates were, but because I come out of the game with 5 saves, and goals scored from making plays in my own end we manage to win. Sometimes it's not about you and how you do and being the top scorer on your team, you need to take the good with the bad. You'll pull out many more wins, and close games if you play to your randoms strengths (if they have any, if not, just play D!). The art of Rocket League is a difficult one to perfect, and I'm not there yet, I still can't freestyle aerial or aerial dribble, but I try to contribute the best I can to push my team to a win. Generally, it works out.

Yes, but often it's not enough. I have lost many games in last seconds and in overtimes, busting my ass all game, covering up for bad teammates.

I actually don't care so much about winning, I don't mind losing 5-0 as long as my teammates are half decent and do what they can and don't do stupid things.



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COKTOE on 02 May 2017
VGPolyglot said:
COKTOE said:

At the risk of looking like a douche in the eyes of some people, I do too. Retarded League just looks and sounds better. Plus, it would have been funny to see the mods edit the title down to Mentally Challenged League. This reminded me of a bit from one of my favs, Doug Stanhope. I can't find the clip. It may have been taken down. Even though it lacks his trademark cadence, here's the quote:

"

  • The thing with the word 'retarded' is that 'retarded' is not like other epithets, it was not a word of hatred; retarded was the medical definition, was actually a word actually born in sensitivity. Cause they used to call them, before retarded was the word, doctors would use 'imbecile' or 'moron.' This is something a smart fuck at Harvard has labelled 'The Euphemism Treadmill': moron and imbecile were the correct terms for a while, and what happened is we co-opted those words to call our friend when he does something incredibly stupid, to the point where it became an insult. So out of sensitivity, they changed the word to 'retarded'... and what happened was we co-opted that word to call our friend when he does something incredibly stupid. So you can keep changing the word, and if you make the new one stick that's what I'm going to call my friend. "Did you just put a metal plate in a microwave? What are you, developmentally disabled? You don't fucking put a metal plate in a microwave, who doesn't know that?" You can make it as difficult to pronounce and Latin-based and medical-rooted, and if you make it stick that's the new word I'm going to call my friend when he trips over his own shoelaces: "Ha ha! You just exhibited some of the atlantoaxial instability that is usually associated with the trisomie 21 genetic imbalance!"

I think the term retarded comes from the French word retard, which means slow.

Yeah, there's a sign on the highway near me that mentions not to use "Retarder Brakes". So slow makes sense.



VGPolyglot on 02 May 2017
COKTOE said:
VGPolyglot said:

I think the term retarded comes from the French word retard, which means slow.

Yeah, there's a sign on the highway near me that mentions not to use "Retarder Brakes". So slow makes sense.

Actually, now that I think about it the translation may be closer to late, as in they develop later on than most people do? However, I'm not entirely sure of the etymology.



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dongo8 on 02 May 2017
SegataSanshiro said:
COKTOE said:

At the risk of looking like a douche in the eyes of some people, I do too. Retarded League just looks and sounds better. Plus, it would have been funny to see the mods edit the title down to Mentally Challenged League. This reminded me of a bit from one of my favs, Doug Stanhope. I can't find the clip. It may have been taken down. Even though it lacks his trademark cadence, here's the quote:

"

  • The thing with the word 'retarded' is that 'retarded' is not like other epithets, it was not a word of hatred; retarded was the medical definition, was actually a word actually born in sensitivity. Cause they used to call them, before retarded was the word, doctors would use 'imbecile' or 'moron.' This is something a smart fuck at Harvard has labelled 'The Euphemism Treadmill': moron and imbecile were the correct terms for a while, and what happened is we co-opted those words to call our friend when he does something incredibly stupid, to the point where it became an insult. So out of sensitivity, they changed the word to 'retarded'... and what happened was we co-opted that word to call our friend when he does something incredibly stupid. So you can keep changing the word, and if you make the new one stick that's what I'm going to call my friend. "Did you just put a metal plate in a microwave? What are you, developmentally disabled? You don't fucking put a metal plate in a microwave, who doesn't know that?" You can make it as difficult to pronounce and Latin-based and medical-rooted, and if you make it stick that's the new word I'm going to call my friend when he trips over his own shoelaces: "Ha ha! You just exhibited some of the atlantoaxial instability that is usually associated with the trisomie 21 genetic imbalance!"

 My sister was born in 1970 and she had 1 exta chromosone. SHe was clinically labeled retarded and became a literaly textbook case taught in medical journals. So yeah I am fine with the word retarded. I just hate people making assumptions anyone with austism can't play games (as my previous post goe sinto detail about) and using Mentally Challenged as a way to belittle others. Op threw a tantrum and honestly his title and post should now be allowed.

I had a neighbor in an apartment that I lived in who had an 8 year old son with autism, but he LOVED playing videogames. It was one of the things that he was really good at, and it helped keep him calm for his mom so that she could handle housework and day to day things. I would let him borrow my Wii games to play when I was done with them, and I guess part of his autism is that he kept his hands busy by spinning things, so he would spin my games while they were in the game cases. He scratched them up pretty good, but I understood because of his condition, and his mom offered to replace any of the ones that were left unplayable. I think probably half of them wound up unplayable, but I never asked his mom for money, it wasn't really her fault and I knew the circumstances going in.



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COKTOE on 02 May 2017
VGPolyglot said:
COKTOE said:

Yeah, there's a sign on the highway near me that mentions not to use "Retarder Brakes". So slow makes sense.

Actually, now that I think about it the translation may be closer to late, as in they develop later on than most people do? However, I'm not entirely sure of the etymology.

It think it's slow. Like in the phrase: " Canning is used to retard spoilage."



dongo8 on 02 May 2017
m0ney said:
dongo8 said:
Just a couple of things. First, Rocket League is one of the most brilliant and entertaining sports games I have ever played. Second, I can empathize a little with you because I know what getting bad teammates online is like, sometimes it is baffling how they reached the rank that they did with their horrible skill level. That being said, you have to be willing to change the way you play the game to fit in with the randoms you get. Are they ball chasing nincompoops? Stay back, play d and clear the ball out of your end. Are they wait and see what the other team does sort of players? Be aggressive, get on the ball and force the play yourself. Are they defensive? In that case, once again you are the aggressor and need to center as much as possible and make plays.

I have run into every sort of teammate on that game, and I can tell you right now there are games where I come out KNOWING that we should have lost the game because of how atrocious my teammates were, but because I come out of the game with 5 saves, and goals scored from making plays in my own end we manage to win. Sometimes it's not about you and how you do and being the top scorer on your team, you need to take the good with the bad. You'll pull out many more wins, and close games if you play to your randoms strengths (if they have any, if not, just play D!). The art of Rocket League is a difficult one to perfect, and I'm not there yet, I still can't freestyle aerial or aerial dribble, but I try to contribute the best I can to push my team to a win. Generally, it works out.

Yes, but often it's not enough. I have lost many games in last seconds and in overtimes, busting my ass all game, covering up for bad teammates.

I actually don't care so much about winning, I don't mind losing 5-0 as long as my teammates are half decent and do what they can and don't do stupid things.

The problem is what may be stupid to your or I may be considered a good, winning move by them. So you really do need to just adjust to what they are doing and try and figure them out. It's difficult, and annoying at times, but it is definitely a must if you want to win games.



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dongo8 on 02 May 2017

By the way, what system do you play on? I'd be more than happy to party up if you want a decent, non-ball-chasing teammate. I consider myself decent anyways haha. I play on Xbox though, and it looks like you may be a Playstation guy.



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Hynad on 02 May 2017
VGPolyglot said:
COKTOE said:

At the risk of looking like a douche in the eyes of some people, I do too. Retarded League just looks and sounds better. Plus, it would have been funny to see the mods edit the title down to Mentally Challenged League. This reminded me of a bit from one of my favs, Doug Stanhope. I can't find the clip. It may have been taken down. Even though it lacks his trademark cadence, here's the quote:

"

  • The thing with the word 'retarded' is that 'retarded' is not like other epithets, it was not a word of hatred; retarded was the medical definition, was actually a word actually born in sensitivity. Cause they used to call them, before retarded was the word, doctors would use 'imbecile' or 'moron.' This is something a smart fuck at Harvard has labelled 'The Euphemism Treadmill': moron and imbecile were the correct terms for a while, and what happened is we co-opted those words to call our friend when he does something incredibly stupid, to the point where it became an insult. So out of sensitivity, they changed the word to 'retarded'... and what happened was we co-opted that word to call our friend when he does something incredibly stupid. So you can keep changing the word, and if you make the new one stick that's what I'm going to call my friend. "Did you just put a metal plate in a microwave? What are you, developmentally disabled? You don't fucking put a metal plate in a microwave, who doesn't know that?" You can make it as difficult to pronounce and Latin-based and medical-rooted, and if you make it stick that's the new word I'm going to call my friend when he trips over his own shoelaces: "Ha ha! You just exhibited some of the atlantoaxial instability that is usually associated with the trisomie 21 genetic imbalance!"

I think the term retarded comes from the French word retard, which means slow.

Retard means "lag", "delay", or "lateness", not slow. Slow would be "lent" in french.

The verb "retarder" in french translates to "to delay", "to postpone", "to put back".

The adjective "retardé" is used the same as the english "retarded".