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Is Nintendo too greedy?

Of course! 121 42.16%
 
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A little. 66 23.00%
 
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niceguygameplayer on 25 February 2017
KLAMarine said:

You can do this for Sony and Microsoft too:

No The Last Guardian for ps3 despite several announcements for it on the ps3, no external HDD support for ps4 until very recently, no backwards compatibility for ps4 (the company that played its part in pioneering that aspect of gaming now shuns it), no external assets for Bethesda mods on ps4, no free online, no scalebound, no easy refunds for that digital No Man's Sky purchase for ps4 despite the crashing problems the game had (and may still have), no 4k blu-ray playback for ps4 pro, no portability for ps4 and x1, no up-to-date hardware on ps4 pro: the tech inside is old by PC gaming standards, no more support for Vita, no more support for ps3 and 360 despite adoption numbers being greater than ps4 and x1, no way to turn off the light on the back of the dualshock 4.

Going back to points raised, some I agree with. Others, not so much:

niceguygameplayer said:

3. No good launch lineup for Switch.

Opinion.

niceguygameplayer said:

Nintendo offers one big game that is available for their last generation console as well. 

I'm glad that BotW is also on WiiU. I was very worried that it wouldn't be after years of promoting it on the WiiU.

Would have been a very shitty move if it didn't come to WiiU.

niceguygameplayer said:

4. No more support for Wii U. After Zelda, I think that is it for big titles. Can you guys name any? I think any big game company like Nintendo, that has billions in the bank, should support their consoles and customers, for at least 5 years. I can understand why Sega abandoned Dreamcast. They were in money trouble. One of Sega's top people had to put his personal funds into Sega to help his company. Nintendo could at least port Super Mario Odyssey to Wii U, since no proper 3D sequel to Super Mario Galaxy was made for Wii U.

And no more support for ps3, Vita, and 360. SMO on WiiU would be stellar though.

niceguygameplayer said:

8. No more preorders for Switch at many locations. Are they creating more demand like was rumored with the original Wii? 

Maybe pre-orders are sold out?

niceguygameplayer said:

9. No to making enough Nes Minis to meet demand. The same question as in #8. 

Did Nintendo announce a stop to production of the Mini? This is news to me!

niceguygameplayer said:

Well, I think that should be enough points to convince anyone but the most diehard Nintendo fans about the greed and disappointment of Nintendo. I could go all the way back to the NES days and point out greedy practices against 3rd parties

You could but that would be old news. NES released about 30 years go. Switch-era Nintendo seems to be on good terms with third parties.

niceguygameplayer said:

as well as other things, but it would take too long for me. The Nintendo seal of quality has indeed been broken, in my opinion. Sony and Microsoft have better in store for your gaming dollars guys. Think about it. 

And from what I've been gathering, PC gaming is the best place to play: free online, modding freedom, nearly endless amounts of functionality... CHOICE!

These long replies are rough on me, but here is another reply, even though I probably won't touch on everything you say.

A. I agree that other companies are not doing everything right. I just feel that Nintendo is the worst offender lately.

B. I agree. I think this Zelda should have remained a Wii U exclusive in fact. I think Switch should have waited another year too.

C. PS3 and 360 have earned the right to retire. They are much older than Wii U. I completely agree about Vita. If not for 3rd parties, Vita would be dead now. Sony did very wrong with Vita. 

D. I read a rumor that production has ended on NES Mini, but I was talking about keeping up with demand before now, mainly.

E. Nintendo had better be on better terms with 3rd parties or Switch will be another Wii U.

F. Well, I am speaking of console gaming. But the money could be spent better on many things: A computer, rent, phone bill, feeding the poor, a new couch, put it toward college or save it, etc. 

Thanks for taking the time for such a long reply!



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niceguygameplayer on 25 February 2017
Pavolink said:
1. Agree
2. Sorta. I want to see what they can do with a powerful hardware, but you are not telling us why do you want more power.
3. Yes. They are rushing it, but compensating with a more steady stream of games during the year. You can wait until holidays.
4. Thank god they are moving from the Wii U. Focus on Switch solely.
5. False. Edit your false OP.
6. Agree.
7. Gonna wait until E3 before I get mad.
8. I don't care but sucks for those that want one
9. Same as above
10. They are after profits, which is better than your estrategy. Also Wii U is done and soon will be the 3DS.
11. There's no need of another direct as all the info necessary for launch is already covered by them or the press.
12. No. Pro controller is built in great quality, 40hrs of battery, NFC, gyro controls and HD rumble inside. Joy cons are even more complex. Price is justified.
13. 1 2 Switch should have been a pack in game for cheap Wii style marketing purposes. Not to.make the console cheaper.
14. Switch needs an SD card included, not a HDD. Portability seems to be the main factor, even if they deny, over the stationary home console component.

Another long one. Shew! OK. I will hit some points. I read them all though.

2. Well, more power means more 3rd party support, good ports, and longevity of the console.

5. I have touched on this in the comments. Sorry, I didn't research it.

10. I believe in fair profits, not over greediness.

11. I guess, but the Directs are more personal and for the fans. I see them as kind of like love letters with comedy mixed in. I enjoy them way more than that horrible, boring conference. 

12. That's your opinion. I think they should have made a cheaper version like for the Wii. Maybe a Pro and Traditional?

14. At the very least, it should come with a 64 gig SD card. Better internal storage would be preferable though.

Thank you for the long response!



niceguygameplayer on 25 February 2017
RolStoppable said:
niceguygameplayer said:

I know this post will probably anger some Nintendo fans, but if you read all of this, you may agree.  I hope not to anger anyone though. I want to expose some dirty Nintendo practices and hopefully convince some to buy better else where. There are so many wrongs that Nintendo does against their customers. I believe in fair profit and business. I think they are too greedy and take advantage of their customers; especially their most loyal fans. This is no troll post. I honestly believe this, and here are my key points and some ranting:

(Long list of mostly idiotic complaints.)

Well, I think that should be enough points to convince anyone but the most diehard Nintendo fans about the greed and disappointment of Nintendo. I could go all the way back to the NES days and point out greedy practices against 3rd parties as well as other things, but it would take too long for me. The Nintendo seal of quality has indeed been broken, in my opinion. Sony and Microsoft have better in store for your gaming dollars guys. Think about it. 

What angers me about your post is how stupid it is. You want to convince Nintendo fans that their money is better spent elsewhere, but your 14 points have hardly anything substantial to offer, and the few points that make sense can easily be applied to Sony and Microsoft as well, so in the end you are left with absolutely nothing that would sway anyone's mind.

I do believe that you are not trolling. I am convinced that you honestly don't know any better than this, because your posting history delivers enough evidence to back this up. You can consider yourself lucky that the mod team doesn't ban people for stupidity, even though the top priority of the mod team is to maintain and foster an environment where intelligent discussion is welcome and encouraged. Your OP is an insult to the intelligence of the community. Someone like you who clearly doesn't have the knowledge to make a thread like this should be forced to frame everything as questions instead of statements, because then people could at least respect you. If you ask questions, you can be perceived as someone who seeks knowledge. But this thread here, this attitude that you know better despite glaring factual errors, it's terrible.

I don't mind criticism of Nintendo and discussion of it, but when it's supposed to be done on a level that rivals curl-6's infamous "requirement of movement and shooting at the same time is bad game design", then that's pissing me off. I do not want you to make yet another thread like this. Not about Nintendo, not about Microsoft. I'd add Sony to the list, but that's redundant in light of your bias.

Moderated ~ Platina

Well, the majority is agreeing with me in the polls. Not to brag, just to point out that my idiocy is apparently not as bad as you think. Oh, and you are not my boss. I will follow what the staff and moderators want, not you. 



niceguygameplayer on 25 February 2017
Vor said:
niceguygameplayer said:

OK, thanks!

ur welcome . And as for point #5 even if it's true why not. No jack is the future. *cough* Apple *cough*

I don't think Apple is setting the trend here. Lol.



Goodnightmoon on 25 February 2017
niceguygameplayer said:
RolStoppable said:

What angers me about your post is how stupid it is. You want to convince Nintendo fans that their money is better spent elsewhere, but your 14 points have hardly anything substantial to offer, and the few points that make sense can easily be applied to Sony and Microsoft as well, so in the end you are left with absolutely nothing that would sway anyone's mind.

I do believe that you are not trolling. I am convinced that you honestly don't know any better than this, because your posting history delivers enough evidence to back this up. You can consider yourself lucky that the mod team doesn't ban people for stupidity, even though the top priority of the mod team is to maintain and foster an environment where intelligent discussion is welcome and encouraged. Your OP is an insult to the intelligence of the community. Someone like you who clearly doesn't have the knowledge to make a thread like this should be forced to frame everything as questions instead of statements, because then people could at least respect you. If you ask questions, you can be perceived as someone who seeks knowledge. But this thread here, this attitude that you know better despite glaring factual errors, it's terrible.

I don't mind criticism of Nintendo and discussion of it, but when it's supposed to be done on a level that rivals curl-6's infamous "requirement of movement and shooting at the same time is bad game design", then that's pissing me off. I do not want you to make yet another thread like this. Not about Nintendo, not about Microsoft. I'd add Sony to the list, but that's redundant in light of your bias.

Moderated ~ Platina

Well, the majority is agreeing with me in the polls. Not to brag, just to point out that my idiocy is apparently not as bad as you think. Oh, and you are not my boss. I will follow what the staff and moderators want, not you. 

Cute the fact that you think that means something at all xD



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niceguygameplayer on 25 February 2017
Ljink96 said:
niceguygameplayer said:

I'm not truly angry except for the no power cord issue. I just think that Nintendo doesn't deserve the loyalty of people like you with Nintendo practically being your username. And I'm not insulting you at all. I just feel like guys like you are being abused by Nintendo. You faithful Nintendo fans deserve better. 

Nintendo has been more to me than any other game company. That's why.I support them I got through some of the hardest times of my life with Nintendo games. It has always been about the games for me. I could care less about hardware. If great game come, I'll buy it. That's why I own a Vita. Psvita violates a lot of the gripes you have yet nobody continues to talk about it. 

Nintendo has literally shaped how I design and develop anything. Mario 64 made me want to do 3d graphics, Nintendo's music is second to none, their software and hardware have revolutionized the industry multiple times over...that's why I stick by Nintendo. You're going to have ups and downs but you really can't enjoy anything if you, hypothetically speaking, can't stop complaining. I own a Ps4 and Xbox one so I don't know what you mean by me only being a Nintendo fan... 

I can find plenty wrong with ps and xb products but I'm not going to talk/gripe about them all the time. And I also suggest you wait for more info on Switch before jumping to conclusions.

I never said that you were a Nintendo fan only. I don't know you. Your name and avatar hint at where your gaming loyalty lies first though. Hey, I grew up on Sega. I'm an older gamer btw. I was picked on bad in school. I was very fat and had bad social anxiety. SMS and Sega Genesis really provided me a way to forget about my problems. The original Phantasy Star is still my favorite game til today. So I understand your emotional attachment. 

About me waiting and seeing, I waited a very long time for Nintendo to finally unveil the Switch. They kept us waiting too long as is. However, I am open to being wrong on some points. Particularly the points about Switch and future events. Thanks for writing.



flashfire926 on 25 February 2017
niceguygameplayer said:
RolStoppable said:

What angers me about your post is how stupid it is. You want to convince Nintendo fans that their money is better spent elsewhere, but your 14 points have hardly anything substantial to offer, and the few points that make sense can easily be applied to Sony and Microsoft as well, so in the end you are left with absolutely nothing that would sway anyone's mind.

I do believe that you are not trolling. I am convinced that you honestly don't know any better than this, because your posting history delivers enough evidence to back this up. You can consider yourself lucky that the mod team doesn't ban people for stupidity, even though the top priority of the mod team is to maintain and foster an environment where intelligent discussion is welcome and encouraged. Your OP is an insult to the intelligence of the community. Someone like you who clearly doesn't have the knowledge to make a thread like this should be forced to frame everything as questions instead of statements, because then people could at least respect you. If you ask questions, you can be perceived as someone who seeks knowledge. But this thread here, this attitude that you know better despite glaring factual errors, it's terrible.

I don't mind criticism of Nintendo and discussion of it, but when it's supposed to be done on a level that rivals curl-6's infamous "requirement of movement and shooting at the same time is bad game design", then that's pissing me off. I do not want you to make yet another thread like this. Not about Nintendo, not about Microsoft. I'd add Sony to the list, but that's redundant in light of your bias.

Moderated ~ Platina

Well, the majority is agreeing with me in the polls. Not to brag, just to point out that my idiocy is apparently not as bad as you think. Oh, and you are not my boss. I will follow what the staff and moderators want, not you. 

Edit: I said something I shouldn't have said, that's all.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

niceguygameplayer on 26 February 2017
Dravenet7 said:
niceguygameplayer said:

Wow, you gave a long and detailed reply! However, I have been responding for a long time now, and it's almost 4 a.m. Your comment will be the first I respond to tomorrow. I will respond fairly and without any angry replies. I do feel that there may be unfair bias from those with Nintendo avatars and names, but I will not just assume you are one of them. No need for anger. You are completely free to disagree all you would like and counter all of my points. Have a good night. 

Did I really come off as angry? That is just the way I tend to analyze stuff and respond. I'll dial it down bit if that is the way it comes out. Rest easy.

A little, but it's cool.



niceguygameplayer on 26 February 2017
NATO said:
the no power cord thing was just fucking stupid.
wonder how many kids got one on Christmas day then had to wait a few days to recharge the fucking thing because all the stores selling power supplies were shut for the holidays?

That's essentially the point I'm trying to make.



niceguygameplayer on 26 February 2017
RavenXtra said:
Forum posters will do basic research when making threads eventually right? ....right?

I could have done more research. I agree. I mostly went on memory. I was wrong on two or three things, I think, but I mostly was right. I will do more proper research in the future, though.