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VGPolyglot on 21 February 2017
Slimebeast said:
VGPolyglot said:
Many people will point out that Trump didn't mention a specific event, which is true, but the fact of the matter is that he is still trying to paint Sweden as a disaster due to its immigration policy, without taking into account the nuances like the fact that rape/sexual assault is counted differently than other countries, and that due to that it was already higher even before the current migrant crisis. Also, Sweden has some of the best music there is, with bands like Entombed, Dismember, Unleashed, Grave, Carnage, Opeth, Edge of Sanity, At the Gates, In Flames, Dark Tranquility, Bathory, Candlemass, Dissection, Katatonia, Marduk, Shining, Meshuggah, there's just so many good bands!! But I guess that I'm rambling on here. Yes, Sweden (like every country) has its problems, but at least be honest and accurate about it if you're going do say something when millions of people are watching.

Haha, at least I agree that you got that right! Dissection especially is fantastic.



I saw them live twice, including the come-back concert above.

Yeah, Storm of the Light's Bane is awesome! One of my favourite black metal albums.



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LadyJasmine on 21 February 2017
Bristow9091 said:
zero129 said:

Fact is Islam is "Not" a Religion of peace but one of hate.

Could you please give me a list of facts that prove the entire religion of Islam is about hate. Are you really telling me that all 1.6b+ Muslims on the planet right now, are preaching hate?

As a muslim to say Islam is a religion of hate is simply racist.

 

However to say it is a religion of peace is absurd as well. 



Goatseye on 21 February 2017
LadyJasmine said:
Bristow9091 said:

Could you please give me a list of facts that prove the entire religion of Islam is about hate. Are you really telling me that all 1.6b+ Muslims on the planet right now, are preaching hate?

As a muslim to say Islam is a religion of hate is simply racist.

 

However to say it is a religion of peace is absurd as well. 

Which religion is that of peace?



LadyJasmine on 21 February 2017
Goatseye said:
LadyJasmine said:

As a muslim to say Islam is a religion of hate is simply racist.

 

However to say it is a religion of peace is absurd as well. 

Which religion is that of peace?

A religion that currently does not currently run over people with trucks?



Goatseye on 21 February 2017
LadyJasmine said:
Goatseye said:

Which religion is that of peace?

A religion that currently does not currently run over people with trucks?

Or harming people at Planned Parenthoods, burning crosses, bombing and shooting people in churches? Is that what you're talking about?



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LadyJasmine on 21 February 2017
Goatseye said:
LadyJasmine said:

A religion that currently does not currently run over people with trucks?

Or harming people at Planned Parenthoods, burning crosses, bombing and shooting people in churches? Is that what you're talking about?

Why dont you go back to the typical liberal excuse for  excusing Islamic Terror and bring up the Cursades now? 

So stupid... 

Islam is not a violent faith, it is corrupted by a radicalism of violence like many religions have had in history and it must be defeated. 

 

Islam in the past had a golden age of learning and discovery and understanding...

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Brainslug on 21 February 2017

So Trump says: Look at how much of a violent place Sweden is, It's aweful.

Supporters say: Well, if you look at these specific cases yes, our lord and master is 100% correct.

But guys. the US has approx. 10x the gun deaths and around 17x the gun muder rate that Sweden has. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate)

Some people really need to stop kidding themselves about which is "The more violent country"

But I'm Canadian, and according to those people, I probably need to mind my own business.



VGPolyglot on 21 February 2017
Brainslug said:
So Trump says: Look at how much of a violent place Sweden is, It's aweful.

Supporters say: Well, if you look at these specific cases yes, our lord and master is 100% correct.

But guys. the US has approx. 10x the gun deaths and around 17x the gun muder rate that Sweden has. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate)

Some people really need to stop kidding themselves about which is "The more violent country"

But I'm Canadian, and according to those people, I probably need to mind my own business.

Well, I am Canadian too, but was born in the U.S. and still have American citizenship, so maybe I won't be disregarded?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-orange-county-florida-sweden-region-where-held-rally-had-50-per-cent-more-murders-a7590601.html?



Mummelmann on 21 February 2017
Brainslug said:
So Trump says: Look at how much of a violent place Sweden is, It's aweful.

Supporters say: Well, if you look at these specific cases yes, our lord and master is 100% correct.

But guys. the US has approx. 10x the gun deaths and around 17x the gun muder rate that Sweden has. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate)

Some people really need to stop kidding themselves about which is "The more violent country"

But I'm Canadian, and according to those people, I probably need to mind my own business.

I agree that it's a bit funny for the president of the most violent nation in the western world, which also has the largest number of prisoners per capita, to attack a Scandinavian country with only a fraction of the issues, all in all. He's calling the kettle black, when in fact it isn't even a little bit gray in comparison.



LadyJasmine on 21 February 2017

Just because the murder rate is down does not excuse why Chicago a city of 2.6 million had 760 murder last year far more then countries like Canada and Great Britain with 35 million and 60 million people.

The thing is a city like Chicago has strict gun laws and has been under democratic control for over 50 years.