Ah, well, I would definitely agree with you there, then. At least from Fall to the end.

Telltale's The Walking Dead.

Ruining the medium? I don't think I mentioned that. Notice in the final paragraph I go out of my way to acknowledge all the fans out there who enjoy cinematic, story-driven games. I'm simply sharing my personal perspective on game design; I'm not trying to force that perspective on others.

If you need examples, I can point to dozens. Here's an in-depth look at The Order if that helps you understand my point of view: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=199376

This is why I stopped caring about Uncharted. When Uncharted 3 came out I saw a 30 min gameply video and when I reached that section in the game myself, I felt like I had already played it once. Sure watching is not 100% of the experience, but I swear for me it was at least 90%

Give me a game like Megaman 3, SMB3, ALTTP or DKC to a game like Metal Gear Solid 4 any day of the week. I prefer games that are almost pure gameplay because they almost never get old. Do you know how many times I have beatn SMB 3 since 1990? Countless! And it never gets old. But I think I've beaten MGS 2 maybe... twice? Three times tops.

I'm sure someone out there just has a fetish for story-heavy games and that's fine. But I really think games that focus on gameplay have better replayablity for most people.

This !

And i love uncharted, Tlou, heavy rain ! 

If you like fps go play fps, if you like sport games go play them, and lets us play uncharted type of game because we love them ! i hate FPS or racing game, and its not for this i want them to die...

I don't think cinematic games are bad "per se". I think that choice-based games like TWD or Until Dawn work, because they take advantage of the interactivity that videogames have. So they differenciate themselves from movies. I'm not convinced about games like The Order, for example. It has little gameplay value, and you can't even "play" with the story. I still think that videogames excel when they use their own arms to tell a story. The Last Guardian is a perfect example.

Playing through Uncharted 4 now, I hate all the cut scenes. Too many of them. And if you hit skip cinematic, you get a long load time. Usually longer than the damn scene would have took to play out.

Stuff like that ruins it for me. I don't want to watch the story. I want to play the game. This is the heaviest on cut scenes Uncharted has ever been. I think Uncharted 2 balanced it perfectly. The cut scenes in Uncharted 4 feel a bit intrusive for me.

So, maybe it's not just full cinematic games like Until Dawn that have that problem. In fact, I enjoyed Until Dawn. I am pretty much forcing myself to finish UC4.

I agree completely. Uncharted hit that sweet spot between arcade action and scripted set-pieces. That balance was lost in Uncharted 3 and 4.

I do encourage you to finish Uncharted 4, though. After Chapter 17 it gets a lot better. Far fewer scripted events and cut-scenes and a lot more improvisational combat.

Yes it does, that's where I started disliking the game and don't want to play it again having to go through all that at the end again. To each their own. I enjoyed the exploration and stealth sections the most in U4.

At least I enjoyed the cut scenes in U4. They were drawn out in rottr so I skipped them. GTA 5 trying to be funny, too slow delivery, skip. FC4 the worst, lengthy and unskippable. I switched inputs to watch TV while the game was rambling on. Long live rumble notifying me when I had control back.

Characters talking or briefing while you're already on a mission works fine. Or like HL2 where you can still walk aroound a pick up stuff while they're talking. It's annoying when they restrict your movement speed during talky sections though. And in RE7 you also can't open doors while talking. Uncharted 4 does enroute briefing / talking very well, continueing the conversation when you return. It's a bit of a mix of everything unfortunately, something for everyone to like and dislike.