Ninty tried dating using the nice guy approach, hoping many gamers were smart with their money. They should now realize their foolishness.

As long as the service is good and the great deals keep coming week after week, I don't mind the paywall personally. Honestly think the sales on PSN have me way more engaged than Steam does for quite some time now.

I've never had any issue with PSN. Never had any issue with Live, and none with NN.

So really, I never really got what people were on about when they say one is better than the other. 

~ double post

The good thing on PC is that you don't only have to look at Steam sales to get good deals for games on Steam or you buy a DRM free game and connect it to your Steam library so yeah, PC is superior to deals on console even if one service doesn't have great deals for some time. 

There is just no way around that if something is better on PC then the free online + deals situation. 

I've also never had big issues with it. That's exactly my point, it is exactly the same since they put the paywall. They increased the cloud save storage, but only because the previous meassly 1GB couldn't hold PS4 saves, since they are mostly over 100MB (LBP3 has 500 MB).

So, it is a genius idea to have an online paywall according to the OP. And everything just because revenue. Not profit, but revenue.

The salt is strong with this one

Profits are certainly not the only thing investors look at; another, very important word is "prospects" or what a given company has in the pipeline or where their vision is directing them. Case in point, go look at the stock price for Tesla. Keep in mind the company isn't profitable - people are investing in the idea behind the company because they see the potential for ROI down the line.

That's not to take away from Nintendo though. I have yet to call doom and gloom on Nintendo because they are very good at extracting profit from their userbase. The best at it for the big 3 actually and they do that through unconventional tactics which makes it more impressive. 

Im not really sure why we need this thread 

A lot of games are Steam only and even if you buy in other places, you get a Steam key. So you can't get away of the DRM. If Valve goes out of business you lose all your games. At least in my case, that's enough to keep me away from it, but a lot of people don't care.

Also mind that physical console games can be sold or buy used, so you can save a lot of money. You can also borrow games for free. People should factor this in before claiming that console games are more expensive. A lot of games have limited replay value and reselling them can save you easily half of the price. If you buy a game in a crazy sale, you can even resell it by a higher price than you paid. You can also trade games with friends and just play other games without expending a penny.

You aren't buying the same thing Steam sells. Steam sells you a personal license, so you have less control over the product. It's cheaper because it isn't the same product.