Soo here we have it switch and scorpio are next gen and both will be beaten by a 4 year old last gen console up until ps5 comes out and beat the shit out of switch ane scorpio again.
The irony
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Shadow1980 said: The problem with calling the Switch "9th-gen" is this:
I took the actual console release timeline (I tried to align things to the month as well) and added a plausible release timeline for the PS5, PS6, its likely Xbox counterparts, and the Switch's successors, should it get one. Nintendo being on a 5-6 year cycle while Sony & MS being on an at least 7-year cycle will quickly run into problems. The Switch's successor will likely launch closer to the PS5 than the Switch did to the PS4, and the Switch's successor's successor could potentially come before the PS6. This is all assuming Nintendo & MS remain console makers into the latter half of the 2020s. By time the PS5 comes out, the Switch will likely already be past its sales peak. The Switch will have spent its prime years being nominal competition for the PS4 & XBO. The idea that the Switch is anything other than an 8th-gen system just doesn't seem to hold up under scrutiny. And as for the Scorpio, it would be utterly dishonest for MS to market it as "next-gen." It exhibits all the same characteristics as other mid-gen upgrades, including the DSi, New 3DS, and PS4 Pro. Its GPU is only about 43% more powerful than the Pro's, hardly next-gen. Third-party games will be nearly identical on both Pro and Scorpio. Gamers will know this. |
Insightful graph.
The generations here seem pretty clear cut, if not for the Switch. Obviously those PlayStation and XBox releases are hypothetical, so it remains to be seen. It kind of all depends on what the Scorpio is exactly. Otherwise, if PS5 and XBox4 (if Scorpio isn't that) coincides with the release of the Switch successor, I'd say there's also always the possibility of considering either or both of Sony and Microsoft to have simply skipped a gen and went from 8th to 10th, like Atari did with the Jaguar in the 5th gen after having skipped the 4th.
| Hynad said: The Switch is as much a 9th gen console as the atari 5200 was a 3rd gen console. |
Yeah feel like its either the 7th? gen home console from nintendo.
or its a part of the 8th gen (PS4,XB1,Switch).
The Wii U honestly was just a tiny bit more powerfull than the Xbox 360, PS3..... it should be part of that gen too.
Its nintendo halting after the others with power & hardware features (graphics wise), it doesnt *feel* like their a gen ahead.
JRPGfan said:
Yeah feel like its either the 7th? gen home console from nintendo. or its a part of the 8th gen (PS4,XB1,Switch). The Wii U honestly was just a tiny bit more powerfull than the Xbox 360, PS3..... it should be part of that gen too. Its nintendo halting after the others with power & hardware features (graphics wise), it doesnt *feel* like their a gen ahead. |
I edited my post to include the SG-1000, SG-1000 Mark II and Sega Mark III. With the later being known as the Master System. All part of the third gen despite differences in specs, form factor, and features.
It will either flop of win the entire generation. I don't see it any other way. If it wins, it's going to dominate like Wii and blow them away by a huge margin.
| iNathan said: Generation means a power leap... |
No, it does not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh_generation_of_video_game_consoles#Wii
Nothing. Because the switch isn't a generational leap.
At best it gets paired up with the pro and scorpio as a mid generation upgrade.
| pray4mojo said: It will either flop of win the entire generation. I don't see it any other way. If it wins, it's going to dominate like Wii and blow them away by a huge margin. |
How does it win a genn when there isn't even next gen systems out? Its facing the xbox 1 and ps4 not xbox 2 and ps5
It's meaningless now. Generation don't mean anything. As for Switch it's a 8th gen console because it will be competing against 8th gen systems and will be fighting for 8th gen games.
| Eagle367 said: I have to add that the idea of only selling as many consoles as possible has clouded gamers judgement. Sure Wii u sold too little but it was still overall profitable for Nintendo. Sure the profit was less but still. Think of it this way. Nintendo can literally keep selling consoles as much as Wii u for generations to come and if they keep making profits then they will still be going strong |
Errrr.... no.
Yes a company can make a profit of selling only 15M consoles over a period of 4/5yrs. But thats not a sustainable market strategy. And if it were nintendo wouldn't have bothered with teh switch so early or even be saying they want to do wii like numbers..
In addition, having sold as many consoles as possible kinda ensures you get a lot of third party support. Which typically translates to more console sales and you guessed it, more profit.
But hey, if you think it workd for nintndo to sell 15M consoles per generation (a number even less than what they accomplished with the NES back in the 80s) then yh.... good luck to them I guess.
Think of it this way, Nintendo as a company is too big to be sustained from whatever revenue it would get from 15M console per generation.
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