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@FF, I see where you're coming from with spurge but do you think you're coming on a little strong over a bit of wording. Maybe it's my lack of experience but I could see myself saying something like that innocently. I don't get any scum reads from spurge. He's playing pretty much the same way last round.



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SWORDF1SH said:
@FF, I see where you're coming from with spurge but do you think you're coming on a little strong over a bit of wording. Maybe it's my lack of experience but I could see myself saying something like that innocently. I don't get any scum reads from spurge. He's playing pretty much the same way last round.

The most suspicious part isn't what he said back on page two, but that he's been dodging the question for the next few hundred posts.  But I can understand if you disagree. 

As for "coming on too strong", I honestly agree.  But apparently this is what it takes to get an answer out of him.  At least, I hope this is good enough, because I don't really have anywhere else to go if this fails. 



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spurgeonryan said:
Ahh yeah. @ hatmoza

Also did I slip what? How is me saying I thought you said trucks was a doc a slip?

Also at your list, I neither agree or disagree with anyone there except for myself.

Because it implies you are not actually reading what people are posting. That's a scum tell.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

SWORDF1SH said:
Since we can't unvote, both of my votes is going to hats but going to let them hang a little longer. I don't know if we should all just vote hats and get it over with. Prof is the other choice. My suspicions are stronger that both are scum with Prof agreeing with hats and hats happily putting prof on town list for doing very little.
Hats numerous times playing down my votes and opinions because I'm a new to mafia and his latest excuse to put my opinion down is because I'm voting 'emotionally'. I don't think I am voting emotionally otherwise I wouldn't vote you. I enjoyed playing with you last round and think you're a good player. Playing with you taught me a few things about your play style and if you are teaming up with Prof, who is another good player, I wouldn't put it past you 2 to come up with a clever plan to trick us.

It's not down playing. More like ignoring you because you have all the newb town tells going for you. Paranoia of the seasoned players, Newb tunneling, not seeing the whole pictures, etc.



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Stefl1504 said:
hatmoza said:
Just to let it be known before I get to work on the framework of my thesis the next 24 hours (blah). My tentative final list of scumspects are Blade, Spurge, Stefl, and now Darwin.

FinalFan, Prof, Sword, and Noctis along with myself are the majority of remaining town.

Actually, this is the first post that makes you seem scummy to me... mainly because you seem that sure that prof is town when he seems a bit odd to me. I also don't agree with most of your scumlist. What makes you think Sword is town though? I am mainly curious on that because my opinion on sword is actually... absolutely neutral.

For what it's worth, I'm far more confident FF is town than I am prof. And if there is one thing I'm wrestling with at the moment, it's putting my trust into prof. I feel like if anyone is gonna fool me this game it's him.

That said, I'm still leaning strongly that he's town because of his responses to Padib, which should have been a normal town response because Padib was acting pretty scummy.



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Final-Fan said:

Don't worry, I didn't forget you.  I just saved the best for last!
-I was really impressed by hatmoza's big data contribution, and correspondingly I didn't think much of padib's reason for dismissing its value.  He said that his lack of interaction with players is due to the fact that he is "calm", which is just mind-boggling in and of itself.  Surely he meant some other thing because calmness has nothing to do with whether or not he interacts with other players in the game.  I called this out
-Then he went on the attack against hatmoza and said no one cared about his data. 
-Then he voted TruckOSaurus (pretty much out of nowhere, or so it seemed to me).  He suggested that we "trickle votes in", which made me suspicious that perhaps he was scum who didn't really care who got lynched but just wanted it to be whoever had enough support to accomplish the lynch. 
-Then, after prof voted him, he immediately revenge voted.  I mean if I had more respect for him as a player, I would be more hesitant to consider this a scum tell, but as it stands he's just some guy to me with a textbook scum tell. 

Basically, I completely agreed with prof, so I didn't articulate my own thoughts.  I should have said that much, at the very least.  Whoops. 

The explanation is great but the thing the irks me is when just voted and oozes scum. This could have been on day 1 not day 2. 

You didn't provide any reasoning for your vote. I find it scummy.



BladeSymphony said:

As for why I voted padib, it wasn't a dagger vote, I chose to trust hat's judgment and it turned out to be wrong. I still think he was looking for easy lynches, and wanted to 100% confirm that, and I did, and look now, he's completely changed his tone entirely and not haphazardly voting for "lurkers." He'll try to drive the tip of the knife home on anyone on his suspect list. He's flip flopping. I think he's working with only one other person, I don't think the possibility of one mafia are very likely. Instead, there is probably one town member (vig or not) who has the ability to day kill.

And again, I disagree with Hat. I don't think Spurge and Stefl are scum. I trust Sword as well. I do think Hat is scum however, because the way he's playing has been shady. He tried to push for lurker lynches, he got what he wanted and now he's trying to tie the noose around my neck due to my votes. Right now, HoS on him. He also didn't bother answering my question from day one and has casually jumped over it as if it was never there.

You suspect Hatz day and you have 3 votes hatz already has a vote but you chose Padib which you didn't suspect. 

You trust hatz judgement but you suspect him.

DO you actually see the irony on that one?



Final Fan

How do you feel about prof?

He shows up over 24 hours ago. Contributes his one and only post to agree with me that Blade is looking scummy. Then disappears. I've been patiently waiting for him to come back and elaborate his thoughts but nothing. It's like he's trying to give me that tiny push to go full force on that Blade lynch while he remains under the radar.

I'm getting cold feet.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

Anyone can answer. Not just FF. I guess I directed at him specifically cuz I trust him the most.

I'm going to bed. Be back in the morning.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

I'm going through again and I'm going to do a strike system for day1 when I see something scummy.

  • FF - IIIIII
  • Prof - II
  • Padib -
  • Stefl - 
  • Darwin - I
  • Spurge - 
  • Hat - IIIIIIIIIIIII
  • Clyde - 
  • Noctis - I
  • Blade - I
  • Trucks - I
Scum reads are FF and hats. Both trying to take small issues and blow it up to get town lynched. The 'fight' at the start between was staged to try and eleminate any ties between them (something that hat suggested when I was scum with him last game). They were literally at each other straight away with FF voting hats over nothing. The whole thing was strange and hats patched it up pretty quick. This allowed them to cut their ties and immediately 'work things out' to take the attention off the issue. They were both very eager to point out they had clashed when I HoSed them. Hats naming FF town a  few time and FF giving hats "huge townie points" backs this up a bit. 
Hats is by far the most scummy!
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If we lynch hats and he is scum, FF is next on the list. Prof still seems a little strange but has gone down on my scum list. Maybe SK?