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Airaku on 17 January 2017
Jranation said:
Airaku said:

 

That would be interesting if that's true but I heard that there was some speculation that when he said "4G" he meant "4GB" and it was a type-o but I don't know. That was really the only thing he got wrong if it wasn't. Though don't be surprised if the online fee is on the pricey side. I'd be substantially surprised if it is.

Okay thats good. I mean i wont mind if there is an option for 4G. Hopefully Nintendo is seeing the negativity responses and needs to counter it by making it cheaper, and adding more features (they could include GC, Wii and Wii U games in those monthly free games) 

I agree. I wouldn't mind 4G but I heard some people say that they have terrible service with it in some places. Where I live it's lightening fast, significantly faster than almost all wi-fi hotspots. Though I've tried in some rural areas while traveling and damn it can be slow as dial up was back in the day. A lot of people have concerns that it'll cause lag in online gaming and that it'll be a real issue. Remember... the games on the Switch are console quality games. Not mobile and they are definitely run and play in real time!

Nintendo is kindly offering a LAN adapter which I believe was listed for $15 at my local EB. I'll likely be picking one up for when I'm at my apartment because despite having a 100Gigabit line there is so much Wi-fi in the building that wireless sucks due to interference. Honestly, it's very stupid of Nintendo not to include this in the system because it seems like it'll be essential.

So apparently the SL and SR buttons are the ones on the joycon. My mistake :P This picture will really put things into perspective.




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FunFan on 17 January 2017
Zekkyou said:
FunFan said:

Because the specs pissing contest is all about numbers on paper. Even if by some chance the Switch could have ports that look fairly close to the competition, many will still ignore/hate/shit on it. Nintendo knows that too many people make up their mind when they see the numbers. Remember how the PS2 was supposed to render 66 million polygons per second and the Gamecube a measly 12? Some people still beleave the GC was much weaker compared to the PS2. They havent played Gamecube games.

While it's certainly possible the Switch could hold up better against the competition than many expect, Skyrim is not a great example. Not only do we lack firm details about its performance profiles, but in general it's not a technically complex title. The core tech behind the game is still firmly grounded in the 7th gen, it just has better assets and shaders now (though even those are relatively limited). The Switch getting a decent port of it would be no more indicative of the Switch's capabilities than the Pro version running at a native 4k is indicative of its own. Hell, if it was optimised to the degree something like GTA5 is, even the original PS3 and 360 versions could look significantly better.

The TW3 and DS3 footage from the thread you link is exactly the type of thing people worry about. I imagine most of us can agree the Switch running complex 8th gen titles is definitely possible, but the worry is we'll end up with what you see in those videos. Significant graphical downgrades, a disappointing resolution (768p for both there), and despite all that still running appallingly (15 to 30fps for DS3, and 15 - 20fps for TW3). Actual Switch ports would likley run much better, but i expect many of us would still consider the ports severely lacking. Many of us already do about some PS4 and X1 versions of titles.

The Switch does justify its specs through its portability, but not everyone is going to care about that, nor do they have to. It's part of the risk Nintendo have accepted in many a hybrid console; it'll be held up to the standards of both sides, for better and worse. 

Case in point.



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Zekkyou on 17 January 2017
FunFan said:
Zekkyou said:

While it's certainly possible the Switch could hold up better against the competition than many expect, Skyrim is not a great example. Not only do we lack firm details about its performance profiles, but in general it's not a technically complex title. The core tech behind the game is still firmly grounded in the 7th gen, it just has better assets and shaders now (though even those are relatively limited). The Switch getting a decent port of it would be no more indicative of the Switch's capabilities than the Pro version running at a native 4k is indicative of its own. Hell, if it was optimised to the degree something like GTA5 is, even the original PS3 and 360 versions could look significantly better.

The TW3 and DS3 footage from the thread you link is exactly the type of thing people worry about. I imagine most of us can agree the Switch running complex 8th gen titles is definitely possible, but the worry is we'll end up with what you see in those videos. Significant graphical downgrades, a disappointing resolution (768p for both there), and despite all that still running appallingly (15 to 30fps for DS3, and 15 - 20fps for TW3). Actual Switch ports would likley run much better, but i expect many of us would still consider the ports severely lacking. Many of us already do about some PS4 and X1 versions of titles.

The Switch does justify its specs through its portability, but not everyone is going to care about that, nor do they have to. It's part of the risk Nintendo have accepted in many a hybrid console; it'll be held up to the standards of both sides, for better and worse. 

Case in point.

Care to elaborate? If I've said something illogical or unreasonable, it should be simple for you to deconstruct that :)



FunFan on 17 January 2017
Zekkyou said:
FunFan said:

Case in point.

Care to elaborate? If I've said something illogical or unreasonable, it should be simple for you to deconstruct that :)

No.



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Zekkyou on 17 January 2017
FunFan said:
Zekkyou said:

Care to elaborate? If I've said something illogical or unreasonable, it should be simple for you to deconstruct that :)

No.

So you felt the need to reply, but have to intention of elaborating? In that case i'm left to assume your argument is grounded in emotion rather than logical deconstructions of people's preferences.

*shrugs* Ah well. Each to their own i guess.



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dark_gh0st_b0y on 17 January 2017
Zekkyou said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
sounds great, but I wouldn't get too excited, why would Nintendo keep so silent if the specs were as good...

4G internet would just make it perfect, but even if he meant 4GB, a 4G internet version could come anytime after 1-2 years if sales are good enough, and could be sold without the dock too

As least as far as power goes while this would be better than what's currently believed, relative to even the standard PS4 and X1 it'd just be dreadful instead of really dreadful. While many will consider the portability justification for that, Nintendo wouldn't share the specifics regardless. 

oh... so if it's still as bad as you say, it doesn't really make a difference whether this or the Eurogamer rumor is real, since what we see in the trailers is visually satisfying anyway
 
now, if these improved specs could guarantee the next GTA for example, then it's a much bigger deal for Switch sales and support



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Zekkyou on 17 January 2017
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
Zekkyou said:

As least as far as power goes while this would be better than what's currently believed, relative to even the standard PS4 and X1 it'd just be dreadful instead of really dreadful. While many will consider the portability justification for that, Nintendo wouldn't share the specifics regardless. 

oh... so if it's still as bad as you say, it doesn't really make a difference whether this or the Eurogamer rumor is real, since what we see in the trailers is visually satisfying anyway
 
now, if these improved specs could guarantee the next GTA for example, then it's a much bigger deal for Switch sales and support

If the Switch is successful enough and 3rd party titles are proven to sell well on the platform, stuff like GTA6 should be possible on it regardless to which specs are correct. It'd likley require dramatic downgrades, but for anyone who values the Switch's portability that'll likley be fine ^^



dark_gh0st_b0y on 17 January 2017
Zekkyou said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:

oh... so if it's still as bad as you say, it doesn't really make a difference whether this or the Eurogamer rumor is real, since what we see in the trailers is visually satisfying anyway
 
now, if these improved specs could guarantee the next GTA for example, then it's a much bigger deal for Switch sales and support

If the Switch is successful enough and 3rd party titles are proven to sell well on the platform, stuff like GTA6 should be possible on it regardless to which specs are correct. It'd likley require dramatic downgrades, but for anyone who values the Switch's portability that'll likley be fine ^^

well, if the downgrades are dramatic no-one will buy it, and developers won't even bother to make it in the first place, so history still repeats itself regardless



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asqarkabab on 17 January 2017

great to have foxconn



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FunFan on 17 January 2017
Zekkyou said:
FunFan said:

No.

So you felt the need to reply, but have to intention of elaborating? In that case i'm left to assume your argument is grounded in emotion rather than logical deconstructions of people's preferences.

*shrugs* Ah well. Each to their own i guess.

Is not that, is that answering what you are asking me could result in you getting offended. I didn't said "case in point" for what you think I did.



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"Did you guys expected some actual rational fact-based reasoning? ...you should already know I'm all about BS and fraudulence." - FunFan, VGchartz (2016)