Then it might not be compatible with every game.

Yeaa! You can get an ethernet adapter and plug it in via USB like you could with the wiiU for like $30 or something.

You are just helping me prove my point. My point is that there is no reason that it should cost as much as it does. Now if they are using pascal which will also mean at most a16nm fab process then that means it should even cost them less to aquire their chips than if they were using the older (larger) 20nm process.

I am not talking about nor do i care about the power of the system, I am talking about its price. The whole thing is overpriced to me and i really cant see what about it justifies that $300 price point.

I mean just look at the dock for crying out loud, yh yh i know sold seperately its probably marked up to all hell and back but that thing cant possibly cost more than $20 for nintendo to make. Hell lets give it $30. The switch has no disc drive, no internal HDD, a 720p LCD screen (thats probably not even IPS), 32GB of flash storage (mind you you can get a 64GB USB flash drive on amazon for $15 so it probably cost ninty no more than $5 for that 32GB of flash storage) The joycon controllers cant cost them more than $30 total, maybe another $10 for its grip. 

Wow that's insane, a home console without any ethernet ports. Any serious online game is much better connection wise wired. I can't believe that'd charge an extra $30 just to add a ethernet port. That's like Apple levels of price gauging.

But this just brings into question why the dock is so pricey. If anything the dock should be $30 tops. If Nintendo is barely making a profit at $300, there's no way they're cutting price like the 3DS so soon just by taking out the dock, which probably costs barely anything to make. They could be making a huge profit on $300 though so who knows until we get a better look at the hardware inside.

I'd disagree, the more I think about the 300 dollar price tag the more it is justified. Let's see why;

First of all, the screen. It's a 720p multi-touch screen, you'd dismiss it as a 20 dollar chinese low-end screen. However people who have been on the hands-on events report that the screen is bright, vivid, colorful and most importantly the viewing angles are also great. It's probably not the low-end 20 dollar chinese 720p touchscreen. But another thing that raises it's price by a bigger margin is the advanced haptic feedback on the touch-screen, which hasn't been discussed at all here. Basically it uses ultra-sonic waves to provide a bigger variety of sensasions instead of simple vibrations, as seen in the following video; 

This would cost quite a bit to implement, and also considering they're also using their tech they're most certainly paying them a fee.

The amazon fire has a 720p multituch capacitive screen too. That whole tablet costs around $50. Screen and all. All that ultrasonic waves stuff you said, that will all be a sensor that probably doesn't cost more than $1..... thats how cheap these things are.

Next, the Joy-Cons. The HD Rumble in such a small controller with a battery and the system that they use to attach to the Switch jack up the price, and it's supposedly very well built and not cheap at all. Not to mention they've crammed an IR camera in there and a NFC sensor in the other. All while designing them to be suited for accessories and hands of all sizes certainly aren't made for 30 dollars. On the hands on event there was actually a demo where they shaked the Joy-Con around and they could feel 3 marbles bouncing around a wooden box (or a similar scenario), and they could feel each one fall and roll around in the Joy-Con. Not to mention Nintendo also bundled in the wrist straps for them, along with the grip.

How much do you really think these things cost? Fine the joycon has batteries, probably like 250mah at best in each one. again all this talk about sensors... just look at those $50 tablets and see all the sensors they come with. And you are aware that the grip provided with the switch doesnt charge the joycon right? you have to buy a seperate grip that can do that instead. and yo u know that HD vibration thing? I am willing to bet that it would just be a number or minature vibrators (like the ones used in cell phones put in 2 or three locations within each joycon. Again. shit like that isn't expensive at all.

The flash storage probably didn't cost a lot at all, but this amount of storage makes a lot of sense for many reasons. First of all, not everyone's going to buy games digitally only. Adding in more storage would have jacked the price up higher for those who were planning on getting games in physical format, and those who want more probably already have a Micro SD laying around or will buy it for cheap. Bundling in 500GB isn't as cheap for the Switch as it is for the PS4 and XBONE, because of their size and form factor they can bundle in cheap and clunky HDD's with a lot of storage, and make them replacable. Not to mention that if you didn't have to install games from discs and they could run directly from them, the XBONE and PS4 would also have small amounts of storage in their base models.

But they don't have small amounts of storage. I dont see how that is relevant to this. We aren't talking about how the switch is used or why its designed the way it is. I am saying simply, 32GB of flash storage is super cheap. Probably costs well under $5. Nthing you just said here disputes that but instead you are telling us how we can always spend more money or have an SD card lying around. And I am not expectin g them to put in a 500GB HDD in the NS. Just that it shouldnt be sold like it has a 500GB HDD in it when it clearly doesn't. Lets not forget the whole BR drive thing too. Which cost $25+ for the PS4/XB1. In the switch, what they have is gonna be nothing more than a $2 receptacle for the carts soldered onto the board.

Next, the dock. This one I'll agree definetly isn't as expensive and doesn't take up much of those 300 dollars at all, but I'd estimate that with the plastic, the motherboard and port types and the soft padding for the Switch it's around 35 dollars. The AC power adapter and USB to HDMI are probably another 15, considering they're probably much better quality than the ones you'd find on eBay for a dollar or two.

N no no no no and no....... The plastic, MB, basically everything dock probably doesn't even cost them more than $15. Those ports and connectors are unbelievably cheap especially considerring how many of them nintendo will order. And again, the poer adaptor and HDMI cable etc.... are definately not $15. All ur prices are just too high.

And last but not least you have to factor in the fact the device is fairly thin and there's a lot of stuff that needs to be crammed in it, the battery, the cooling system, the RAM, flash storage, ports and slots, the speakers and the processor. Everything but the processor probably adds up to around 40-ish dollars, and now you need a efficent, cool, small and powerful processor for cheap. Pascal fits the bill no doubt, and a die shrink of a 3 year old processor doesn't make sense for nVidia who wants to get into the gaming industry and they definetly want Nintendo to sell these well and earn their share of the profit, and also showcase and sell their new tech. A die shrink wouldn't be as efficent as Pascal either.

I have a device with 4GB of the same kinda ram the switch uses, an arm processor too, a 3000mah+ battery, wifi, GSM, 4G radios, more sensors than you can count, a quag HD screen which is basically 4 times the rez of what you have on the NS,64GB of internal storage and is less than 8mm thick. And it was release last year and cost around teh same price the switch costs. And now it costs even less than that. 

People underestimate the tech in the Switch and rant about the 300 dollar price without knowing what's in the package, not to mention complaining about online without knowing how much it costs. For all we know it could be 20 dollars a year. They focused on the major points like screen quality, build quality, the immersive controls and portability. They had to cut corners like storage and 4130mAh battery to make the price tag while earning a profit. The Switch is so far turning out to be very impressive from a tehnical standpoint, and will offer a much better gaming experience than the four times more expensive iPad Pro (the 12" version), and allow you to play at home instead of buying another Nintendo home console. Sounds like a deal to me.

I don't think anyone is underestimating anything. Some of us just know that it should not cost as much as it does. Saying it should cost less isnt sayin the tech inside it is bad. Its rather saying that its bad to price it as high as they are.

Either way, this works for them. They know teher are at least 3M people that will probably buy it at $300. And they can't even make that many all at once. So it makes sense for them to price it that high and gouge early adopters. By Xmas watch it be down to $250 with deals for it for as low as $230. Next year it should be under $200.