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no offense, but going to take an ex dev's comments with a grain of salt at this point in time. Let's wait and hear what the people currently working on the projects say. He may or may not be correct



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zorg1000 said:
spemanig said:

No, I mean not at all.

Well that makes no sense

It makes perfect sense. "Handheld" denotes a specific formfactor and design philosophy that the Switch doesn't abide by. It's too big and is fuctionally designed to not be held in your hands as a convenience via the kick stand and detatchable controllers.

We keep going in circles. It's gaming's analog to a lap-tablet. Consoles are the desktops and handhelds are the smartphone. It is not "a marriage of the two." It's something else.



spemanig said:
zorg1000 said:

Well that makes no sense

It makes perfect sense. "Handheld" denotes a specific formfactor and design philosophy that the Switch doesn't abide by. It's too big and is fuctionally designed to not be held in your hands as a convenience via the kick stand and detatchable controllers.

We keep going in circles. It's gaming's analog to a lap-tablet. Consoles are the desktops and handhelds are the smartphone. It is not "a marriage of the two." It's something else.

no, you're making up own criteria.

a device that can be carried around and played in your hands is a handheld.



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mountaindewslave said:

no offense, but going to take an ex dev's comments with a grain of salt at this point in time. Let's wait and hear what the people currently working on the projects say. He may or may not be correct

I think people are taking what he says the wrong way or too far if they think it's worth taking with a pinch of salt.

It's a device with half the ram, less gflops, a handheld+docked mode and a much lower memory bandwidth.

The guy says you won't be able to just shove xbo/ps4 code on it and it'll work. I don't care who the guy is, that's just an obviously true statement. with all the differences between the PS4 and Switch there clearly has to be work put in beyond a direct port.

There's no salt needed for that.



zorg1000 said:
spemanig said:

It makes perfect sense. "Handheld" denotes a specific formfactor and design philosophy that the Switch doesn't abide by. It's too big and is fuctionally designed to not be held in your hands as a convenience via the kick stand and detatchable controllers.

We keep going in circles. It's gaming's analog to a lap-tablet. Consoles are the desktops and handhelds are the smartphone. It is not "a marriage of the two." It's something else.

no, you're making up own criteria.

a device that can be carried around and played in your hands is a handheld.

No, you're being too literal.

Every handheld must also be a home console because, well, you can play them all at home.



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spemanig said:
zorg1000 said:

no, you're making up own criteria.

a device that can be carried around and played in your hands is a handheld.

No, you're being too literal.

Every handheld must also be a home console because, well, you can play them all at home.

What makes the Switch not usable as a handheld console? Because it's screen is 1 inch bigger than a Vita? It's a gaming device with an integrated display and power source that can be used in any location whilst being held in your... hands. It's a handheld console.



Miyamotoo said:
Barkley said:

What makes  you say that? He doesn't mention many specifics other then Memory Bandwidth and it using Maxwell Architecture, but everything he is saying seems to be based on what is believed to be the Switch's Specs.

I don't see anything that suggests he doesn't know what the Switch's Specs are, he seems to know exactly what he's talking about.

" Straightforward code port is not possible." 

Basically he's saying you'll need to put work in to make ps4/xbo games run on a system with much less power, I think that's a fairly safe and obvious statement.

His whole opinion sounds it made just on leaked specs we all heard, fact that mention just Memory Bandwidth and Maxwell Architecture without any other details proves that, no mention some detailed and exact specs, or that he knows anything about Switch tools and APIs that Nvidia specifically made for Switch.

Probably because the leaked specs are the actual specs, which I have no reason to believe otherwise. Anyway he's definitely an ex-ubisoft employee so there's no need for putting that in quotes like you did either. I have no reason to disbelieve anything he says, as honestly what he says is just blatantly obvious anyway.

I think people are taking his words to the extreme and far too negatively, and then just rejecting it.



spemanig said:
zorg1000 said:

no, you're making up own criteria.

a device that can be carried around and played in your hands is a handheld.

No, you're being too literal.

Every handheld must also be a home console because, well, you can play them all at home.

No a home console is one that is connected to a TV and played with a seperate controller, hence how Switch is both a handheld & home console.



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Barkley said:
spemanig said:

No, you're being too literal.

Every handheld must also be a home console because, well, you can play them all at home.

What makes the Switch not usable as a handheld console? Because it's screen is 1 inch bigger than a Vita? It's a gaming device with an integrated display and power source that can be used in any location whilst being held in your... hands. It's a handheld console.

Because the whole device is almost 10 inches wide and handhelds aren't meant to be that big. The same way a tablet with a dataplan that can make phone calls and text is not suddenly a smartphone, the Switch doesn't suddenly become a handheld just because you can hold it sometimes.

The Switch has three modes of play informed by its industrial design, and only one of them is even meant to be held at all. 1/3. It's not a handheld. It's something else.



zorg1000 said:
spemanig said:

No, you're being too literal.

Every handheld must also be a home console because, well, you can play them all at home.

No a home console is one that is connected to a TV and played with a seperate controller, hence how Switch is both a handheld & home console.

Nope. A home console just needs to be a console that can be played at home in your universe where a handheld just needs to be a console that can be played in your hands.

You're either literal with both or interpretive with both. You don't get to be one or the other.