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Eagle367 on 24 December 2016
asqarkabab said:
Eagle367 said:

Seriously? Your statements are deplorable. You are putting all people form one place into one category just because you saw some bad people that happen to be well... bad. SO just because some germans or indians are rapists and those are the ones I have seen does that mean I should consider all germans and Indiands rapists? Absolutely not. There are bad apples in every nation, region and religion. It does not mean all of them are bad. The Palestenians deserve better. Also remember that Palestine gave shelter to fleeing jews. Is that bad in your book? Then those jews toppled the entire nation and build their own country? It's akin to taking shelter in my house and then taking over the entire house and giving me only the closet. Shame on you. Shame on you. Shame on you.

Have you heard that the palestinians sold their lands to the jews ?

Selling land and taking over a nation are two different things. If a lot of  X people buy lands in Y nation, then do the X have a right to kill off the people of Y nation and build their own nation? SO rich people can buy countries and lives? is that what you are implying?



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asqarkabab on 24 December 2016
Eagle367 said:
asqarkabab said:

If they ever get a state theyre unable to hold it see the differences between hamas and fattah 

You have to live with them to see how they are 

I see them every day here in germany they are mostly criminals and drug dealers they are not capable to have their on country

Seriously? Your statements are deplorable. You are putting all people form one place into one category just because you saw some bad people that happen to be well... bad. SO just because some germans or indians are rapists and those are the ones I have seen does that mean I should consider all germans and Indiands rapists? Absolutely not. There are bad apples in every nation, region and religion. It does not mean all of them are bad. The Palestenians deserve better. Also remember that Palestine gave shelter to fleeing jews. Is that bad in your book? Then those jews toppled the entire nation and build their own country? It's akin to taking shelter in my house and then taking over the entire house and giving me only the closet. Shame on you. Shame on you. Shame on you.

I dont say all of them but most of them are like that 

Look at the statistics and see who are the majority of the prisoners



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Eagle367 on 24 December 2016
asqarkabab said:
Eagle367 said:

The israelis killed almost all the palestenians. That is straight up genocide. Genocide. Genocide. It's Genocide

Was the Holocaust no genocide ?

The jews defended themselves in the wars the arabs initiated against them and in wars people die

The holocaust was hitler. The palestenians gave them shelter. Then they stabbed their helpers in the back. "Hey you protected us from genocide, so we'll start a genocide on you. Is that okay? Who cares we're doing it"



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asqarkabab on 24 December 2016
Eagle367 said:
asqarkabab said:

Have you heard that the palestinians sold their lands to the jews ?

Selling land and taking over a nation are two different things. If a lot of  X people buy lands in Y nation, then do the X have a right to kill off the people of Y nation and build their own nation? SO rich people can buy countries and lives? is that what you are implying?

No the jews and palestinians wanted to live in peace but the balfour declaration made the situation worse



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palou on 24 December 2016
asqarkabab said:
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The claims they had also fall off after a while. In all the history that matters (I'd say, 100 years or so, to kill off 1 generation completely), the land was owned by Palestinians. 

Putting Religion in an argument between two folks with different interpretations on religion is basis for catastrophe. You can never use religion to justify actions upon others - this is, as said, the rhetoric of a jihadist (even if slightly more civilised): it's okay to ignore logical morality because my god said I should do this.

100 years ago this land were owned by the ottoman empire 

So by youre logic the turks are the owners of this land

 

People have the right to land, not political entities. The palestinian people, under the rule of the Ottomans, lived in that territory for the last 100 years. The Ottoman empire split up into several fragments; the people that lived in each fragment should be given to those that lived there, at the time.

 

Also concerning your comment on the individuals in Germany; In an argument, personal experience is worthless, mine has been quite different for this situation. It is plain up impossible for the majority of Arabs to be criminals and drugdealers, considering that the former massively outnumber the latter.



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asqarkabab on 24 December 2016
Eagle367 said:
asqarkabab said:

Was the Holocaust no genocide ?

The jews defended themselves in the wars the arabs initiated against them and in wars people die

The holocaust was hitler. The palestenians gave them shelter. Then they stabbed their helpers in the back. "Hey you protected us from genocide, so we'll start a genocide on you. Is that okay? Who cares we're doing it"

There was a negitiation between the uk and the ottoman empire that allowed the jews to return to their homeland

And they lived in peace before the balfour declaration



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Eagle367 on 24 December 2016
asqarkabab said:
Eagle367 said:

Seriously? Your statements are deplorable. You are putting all people form one place into one category just because you saw some bad people that happen to be well... bad. SO just because some germans or indians are rapists and those are the ones I have seen does that mean I should consider all germans and Indiands rapists? Absolutely not. There are bad apples in every nation, region and religion. It does not mean all of them are bad. The Palestenians deserve better. Also remember that Palestine gave shelter to fleeing jews. Is that bad in your book? Then those jews toppled the entire nation and build their own country? It's akin to taking shelter in my house and then taking over the entire house and giving me only the closet. Shame on you. Shame on you. Shame on you.

I dont say all of them but most of them are like that 

Look at the statistics and see who are the majority of the prisoners

When you're poor and have no education, that happens. Don't look at just raw data. Even if the data says there are more prisoners and that's a valid if cuase there is no source here for me to review, so "even if" tha is true, you have to look at why most of them are in jail. If its for something heinous like rape then sure but if its for theft or stuff like that, you have another issue entirely. Also "if" all of that supports your claim, the most you can say is that most of the immigrants in your area are like that, not all the people of the original place. If all the bad people got out then of course this'll happen. But all of these are "ifs" that I entertained. show me data. The burden of proof lies on your head



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Eagle367 on 24 December 2016
asqarkabab said:
Eagle367 said:

The holocaust was hitler. The palestenians gave them shelter. Then they stabbed their helpers in the back. "Hey you protected us from genocide, so we'll start a genocide on you. Is that okay? Who cares we're doing it"

There was a negitiation between the uk and the ottoman empire that allowed the jews to return to their homeland

And they lived in peace before the balfour declaration

So Zionists from britain ruined the area for everyone?



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asqarkabab on 24 December 2016
Eagle367 said:
asqarkabab said:

I dont say all of them but most of them are like that 

Look at the statistics and see who are the majority of the prisoners

When you're poor and have no education, that happens. Don't look at just raw data. Even if the data says there are more prisoners and that's a valid if cuase there is no source here for me to review, so "even if" tha is true, you have to look at why most of them are in jail. If its for something heinous like rape then sure but if its for theft or stuff like that, you have another issue entirely. Also "if" all of that supports your claim, the most you can say is that most of the immigrants in your area are like that, not all the people of the original place. If all the bad people got out then of course this'll happen. But all of these are "ifs" that I entertained. show me data. The burden of proof lies on your head

The source is the BKA that is the federal office of crimes 

Look at the crimes that happend after the asylum crisis since 2015 

Ones of them was in berlin that the terrorist was shoot by the police in Milan or the girl that was raped and killed in freiburg there are many other examples



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asqarkabab on 24 December 2016
Eagle367 said:
asqarkabab said:

There was a negitiation between the uk and the ottoman empire that allowed the jews to return to their homeland

And they lived in peace before the balfour declaration

So Zionists from britain ruined the area for everyone?

Yes 

Why are many jews against the israeli state because they are against zionism 

Zionism has nothing to do with judaism



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