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Is it messed up Nvidia are selling consoles, when they supply chips to Nintendo's Switch?

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CaptainExplosion said:
Random_Matt said:

The shield?

I know the Pro version was £219 here in the UK, likely same price for this newer one.

And isn't this a dick move on Nvidia's part since they're already supporting the Nintendo Switch?

I don't think Nintendo cares that much about it, since the Shield is more or less a niche device, and NVidia knows it. The Switch will be infinitely more known and will sell more. But I will be pissed if they are not putting something close to the Shield 2's specs on the Switch.



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lol watch this thing destroy Swiitch in power. And its a shame too. This is what the NX home console should have been.



Well, they don't know when to quit, do they? Both the Shield portable and Shield consoles were ridiculous flops (Nvidia didn't released sales figures, so they clearly are not good). Slapping last gen titles and decade old ports plus all crappy mobile games out there didn't worked very well.

It's too weak to get current gen ports and last gen ports won't cut it because you can simply get a 360 or PS3 and play way more titles. The whole concept of creating a cheaper alternative to current gen consoles is flawed because you can simply get a last gen console that will slaughter the library of any mini-console.

Shield TV had Crysis 3 (PS360 have 1 to 3), Metal Gear Rising (also on PS360) and other older ports. Why would you buy it instead of getting an old console that would have thousands of games? Dozens of 90+ meta games? If you want to game, these mini-consoles are useless.

If you want to consume media, then they are even more useless. Supposing you don't like gaming, why would you bother? All modern TVs are smart TVs. I have a Samsung one that has Netflix, WWE Network, HBO Plus, YouTube, anything. I can mirror the screen of my Android phone and it also plays any video format with subtitles from a flash drive. Why would I expend more money to get a poor-mans console that won't do much more than my TV already does?

At least Roku and Chromecast are dirty cheap. So they can add functionality that people do care with a good C/B. They will all be dead in a few years as soon as all TVs incorporate all media functions.



Whats main points about Switch that makes it difrent than any other device on market, can be used like real home console and like real handheld, and offcurse Nintendo games. So this new Shield want have any effect on Switch.
Previous generation of Shield product also didnt had any effect on console market, so it want have effect on Switch also.
But interestingly Switch and New Shield can get same 3rd party ports.



CaptainExplosion said:
Random_Matt said:

The shield?

I know the Pro version was £219 here in the UK, likely same price for this newer one.

And isn't this a dick move on Nvidia's part since they're already supporting the Nintendo Switch?

Hell no, i want one for casual Android gaming and emulators. 



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So the president of Nvidia said they will be working with Nintendo for decades. When the chips in Shield 2 are old, crusty and cheap you will see them in Switch 2.

This will be the deal Nvidia has with Nintendo, buy up all outdated chips when new ones comes out. The specs of Shield 2 are the specs for Switch 2 a few years from now, downclocked.

EDIT: Conina, make note of my prediction so you can show me the error of my ways later on. Thanks friend, with you around I have no need of a conscience.



   

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mutantsushi said:
FromDK said:

Cant you guys see what this is.

1. What is the fundamental difference here between what you describe and Ninty going 3rd party?  I don't see it.
Ninty is known for underpowered consoles, meaning their low power games are trivially portable to many platforms.
2. No reason it can't be on ALL Android devices, PS, Xbox, whatever.  
They don't worry about multiple HW configs because they optimize performance around lowest common denominator
and simply don't try to fully leverage power of specs above that, as it still works at least as good.
If Ninty's goal is for it's games to be everywhere and not limited to Ninty consoles they don't need special deal with NVIDIA.
3. Why would Ninty let their strategy hinge on consumers happening to buy a TV with NVIDIA chip?
4. Why would TV manufacturers want to subjugate their own value in favor of promoting NVIDIA chip to consumers?
5. Why would Ninty target (NVIDIA subset of) TVs when they can target PS/Xbox who all have the controllers needed for gameplay?
(and whose consumers by buying dedicated game machine are strongly likely to buy many games, unlike TV consumers)

1. If they went 3. party they will have no controll.. and not earn any on 3.party titles.. This is more like steam.

2. No.. Nintendo offcourse dont want to support there main competetors.. and most important.. They are not compatible with Switch

And why are you talking about power?.. The point is that future Tegra chips can run "what ever there is on Switch"

3. They open up a new marked.. that could be insane big. Good strategy

4. Lets take LG.. at the moment they earn nothing at games.. if they used a switch compitabel chip.. they could get (dont know but lets say) 30% of all games sold on that tv.. (both Nintendo and 3 party)

5. Like i said.. it would not make sense to support other gaming platforms.. and they are also different hardware



torok said:
Well, they don't know when to quit, do they? Both the Shield portable and Shield consoles were ridiculous flops (Nvidia didn't released sales figures, so they clearly are not good). Slapping last gen titles and decade old ports plus all crappy mobile games out there didn't worked very well.

It's too weak to get current gen ports and last gen ports won't cut it because you can simply get a 360 or PS3 and play way more titles. The whole concept of creating a cheaper alternative to current gen consoles is flawed because you can simply get a last gen console that will slaughter the library of any mini-console.

Shield TV had Crysis 3 (PS360 have 1 to 3), Metal Gear Rising (also on PS360) and other older ports. Why would you buy it instead of getting an old console that would have thousands of games? Dozens of 90+ meta games? If you want to game, these mini-consoles are useless.

If you want to consume media, then they are even more useless. Supposing you don't like gaming, why would you bother? All modern TVs are smart TVs. I have a Samsung one that has Netflix, WWE Network, HBO Plus, YouTube, anything. I can mirror the screen of my Android phone and it also plays any video format with subtitles from a flash drive. Why would I expend more money to get a poor-mans console that won't do much more than my TV already does?

At least Roku and Chromecast are dirty cheap. So they can add functionality that people do care with a good C/B. They will all be dead in a few years as soon as all TVs incorporate all media functions.

Yep, the Shield family of devices are basically in no man's land. People who play mobile games do that on the phones/tablets they already own and console gamers aren't looking to buy a device so they can play late PS3/360 ports that they likely already played and most people have multiple media devices already whether its a phone, tablet, laptop, PC, console, streaming box, smart TV, smart Blu-ray player, etc.

If the Shield family had its own exclusive software than maybe it could carve out a niche for itself but without that they are mostly pointless devices.



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zorg1000 said:

Yep, the Shield family of devices are basically in no man's land. People who play mobile games do that on the phones/tablets they already own and console gamers aren't looking to buy a device so they can play late PS3/360 ports that they likely already played and most people have multiple media devices already whether its a phone, tablet, laptop, PC, console, streaming box, smart TV, smart Blu-ray player, etc.

If the Shield family had its own exclusive software than maybe it could carve out a niche for itself but without that they are mostly pointless devices.

Shield is also too expensive. Ouya was cheap enough to distantiate itself from last gen devices and still failed. There's really no point in buying a budget consoles when last gen devices have a good price and an amazing library. You could pile up all mobile games and it still wouldn't touch the 3 or 4 best PS360 games. And they still got a bunch of current gen ports, so you can even play Phantom Pain and Destiny on them.

Here in Brazil we already saw this. TecToy, the former partner of Sega here, was pretty lost when Sega went downhill. During the PS360 years they had an idea: creating the Zeebo, a console with mobile phone parts that would cost less than 1/3 of a (then) current gen device. Games would be cheap and download-only, through a 3G network that was free. It bombed massively hard. Why? It costed on par with a PS2, that had a brilliant game library. Hell, even a PS1 was a better deal. It got some games, some even decent. But last gen consoles are invencible. Because once they were the focus of the industry for half a decade. 5+ years receiving the best games ever.