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Hapuc12 said:
VGPolyglot said:

I'm not getting butthurt. I'm just arguing the flaws in your argument. I already said that many atheists wouldn't commit suicide because they don't want nothingness. I'd say that religion has a better ratinale for suicide than atheism: if this life really sucks, why not just end it and be in a paradise instead?

Because Suicide is a sin.

Atheism 90% the school shootings in America were created by Atheists.

So, suicide is a sin? Then God really is a heartless, egotistical person, and he should be removed from power as quckly as possible to not cause any more suffering. Also, do you have any sources for your second statement?



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ratuscafoarterea said:
VGPolyglot said:

No, what I'm saying is that we can't attribute all of their actions to religion, because humans are emotional beings and are much more influenced by their social circumstances than what a book says. If you really believe that every Muslim is dangerous, the Bible is just as violent, should we force them all out too?

Why do you put words in to my mouth? Where did I tell you that all Muslims are dangerous/violent? My point is that Islam is a religion that needs to be reformed just like Christianity did long time ago. It has nothing to do with feelings. Let me ask you a question. Do you remember the Charlie Hebdo massacre? Those guys were making fun and criticizing ALL religions in their cartoons. Why didn’t a Christian or a Jew, commit that massacre?  Why is it that from all the religions, which were offended by the Charlie Hebdo cartoons, only Muslims choose to go and murder those people?

 

Wasn't it a Christian that shot up an abortion clinic? What about all of the hate crimes committed against Muslims? You fail to ignore terrorist attacks committed by Christians and the situation surrounding the massacres.



VGPolyglot said:
Hapuc12 said:

Because Suicide is a sin.

Atheism 90% the school shootings in America were created by Atheists.

So, suicide is a sin? Then God really is a heartless, egotistical person, and he should be removed from power as quckly as possible to not cause any more suffering. Also, do you have any sources for your second statement?

ahahah why shouldn't he be if they are stupid enough to kill them self because of self loathing or some bullshit i don't see why that wouldn't be sin.

Just look at the School Shootings but if you want:Anders Brevik Atheist,Sandy Hook,Columbine,Verginia Tech Massacre,That guy that shoot the Cinema when dark knight rising movie was premiering.

Just coming from the top of my mind.

But we are done with this convo seriosly we have taken it out of proportions ;) see you around.



VGPolyglot said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

Why do you put words in to my mouth? Where did I tell you that all Muslims are dangerous/violent? My point is that Islam is a religion that needs to be reformed just like Christianity did long time ago. It has nothing to do with feelings. Let me ask you a question. Do you remember the Charlie Hebdo massacre? Those guys were making fun and criticizing ALL religions in their cartoons. Why didn’t a Christian or a Jew, commit that massacre?  Why is it that from all the religions, which were offended by the Charlie Hebdo cartoons, only Muslims choose to go and murder those people?

 

Wasn't it a Christian that shot up an abortion clinic? What about all of the hate crimes committed against Muslims? You fail to ignore terrorist attacks committed by Christians and the situation surrounding the massacres.

Again, you fail to get my point. Where do you see Christian priests or religious Christians, on the streets, calling for the killing of anyone that disagrees with the Bible, or makes fun of Christianity?  Also, you’re very wrong. In today’s world, mass murders and terrorists attacks committed by Christians are very small in numbers comparing to those committed by Muslims/Islamists.

And guess what? You haven't answered my question about the Charlie Hebro atacks.



ratuscafoarterea said:
VGPolyglot said:

Wasn't it a Christian that shot up an abortion clinic? What about all of the hate crimes committed against Muslims? You fail to ignore terrorist attacks committed by Christians and the situation surrounding the massacres.

Again, you fail to get my point. Where do you see Christian priests or religious Christians, on the streets, calling for the killing of anyone that disagrees with the Bible, or makes fun of Christianity?  Also, you’re very wrong. In today’s world, mass murders and terrorists attacks committed by Christians are very small in numbers comparing to those committed by Muslims/Islamists.

And guess what? You haven't answered my question about the Charlie Hebro atacks.

You don't remember the Christians that were saying that the Pulse nightclub victims got what they deserved?  Also, the American government, run by Christians, sponsors a lot of terrorism abroad, unless you're saying that state-sponsored terrorism doesn't count. Also, referring to your Charlie Hebdo statement, it's like you think that I agree with the terrorists. It's not like I want them to do what they do, in fact I want them to stop. That's why we should try to figure out why they do it in order to stop it. Yes, Christians and Jews aren't as hostile as Muslims are when a religious figure is depicted, but that doesn't mean that everything that I said should be dismissed.



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VGPolyglot said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

Again, you fail to get my point. Where do you see Christian priests or religious Christians, on the streets, calling for the killing of anyone that disagrees with the Bible, or makes fun of Christianity?  Also, you’re very wrong. In today’s world, mass murders and terrorists attacks committed by Christians are very small in numbers comparing to those committed by Muslims/Islamists.

And guess what? You haven't answered my question about the Charlie Hebro atacks.

You don't remember the Christians that were saying that the Pulse nightclub victims got what they deserved?  Also, the American government, run by Christians, sponsors a lot of terrorism abroad, unless you're saying that state-sponsored terrorism doesn't count. Also, referring to your Charlie Hebdo statement, it's like you think that I agree with the terrorists. It's not like I want them to do what they do, in fact I want them to stop. That's why we should try to figure out why they do it in order to stop it. Yes, Christians and Jews aren't as hostile as Muslims are when a religious figure is depicted, but that doesn't mean that everything that I said should be dismissed.

Man you're so naive, it's like talking to a kid. The American government/politicians are not run by Christians or religious motivations. You’re really naive if you think that. It’s run by lobbyists and economical interests. The same way Saudi Arabia, the biggest terrorist exporting country, is run by money/economical interests, not religion/Islam. Religion is just used to find idiots to blow them self’s up. The so called American exporting terrorism machine, exists because Saudi Arabia is asking for it. It's there to fullfill the terrorism exporting needs of Saudia Arabia.



ratuscafoarterea said:
VGPolyglot said:

You don't remember the Christians that were saying that the Pulse nightclub victims got what they deserved?  Also, the American government, run by Christians, sponsors a lot of terrorism abroad, unless you're saying that state-sponsored terrorism doesn't count. Also, referring to your Charlie Hebdo statement, it's like you think that I agree with the terrorists. It's not like I want them to do what they do, in fact I want them to stop. That's why we should try to figure out why they do it in order to stop it. Yes, Christians and Jews aren't as hostile as Muslims are when a religious figure is depicted, but that doesn't mean that everything that I said should be dismissed.

Man you're so naive, it's like talking to a kid. The American government/politicians are not run by Christians or religious motivations. You’re really naive if you think that. It’s run by lobbyists and economical interests. The same way Saudi Arabia, the biggest terrorist exporting country, is run by money/economical interests, not religion/Islam. Religion is just used to find idiots to blow them self’s up. The so called American exporting terrorism machine, exists because Saudi Arabia is asking for it. It's there to fullfill the terrorism exporting needs of Saudia Arabia.

 

That was exactly my point. The United States may be comprized of Christians, but they aren't doing it because of their religion, they do it because they're power hungry, much like how the Saudi government is doing it because they're power hungry (do you really think that Saudi leaders do as they preach?)



VGPolyglot said:
Lawlight said:

I agree with him and I'm not in any way visibly white. Now what?

It reminds me of when Lil Wayne says that there's no racism because he's black and doesn't see racism.

Which makes no sense - he's probably a celebrity millionaire. I'm not.



I think radical Islam is a huge threat but should be stopped at the ground level at home.



A baby terrorist is still better than an adult one, you need a smaller caliber to stop him and he can carry less explosive.



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