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TruckOSaurus on 27 December 2016
zero129 said:
Linkzmax said:

It looks like at some point Clyde took my point about Trucks vote not being in bold to heart. So just as spurge's vote for you didn't count, neither did Trucks. I could've sworn Clyde continued to count that vote up until he moved to miz, but now only the very first votals show that vote.

I do.

How bout? http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8209088

You're blaming Trucks for not voting for a time extension when he wasn't here?

Again, I've never said it's strong or good. I just see other votes as worse. I think you've been tunneling him ever since he voted(wether Clyde counts it or not) for you and you've been basing connections off of it from the beginning as well.

Well im more blaming him for placing the vote in the first place. didnt realise he wasnt on to remove it...

Also thats a very nice fluffy post from trucks with his own words for why he voted for miz.

did miz say "exactly" what trucks is making out in that post?.

Clearly my main suspects would of been Stefl, Trucks, and spurge.

They are the 3 long time mafia players who didnt have a strong reason for voting.

Stefl has claimed (Could still be lying and partnered with mr.p). Spurge is dead and confirmed town. That leaves trucks.

But if you want us to work on the newer players i can do that too?.

Here's miz's post:

miz1q2w3e said:
spurgeonryan said:
You do know that changing your play style Make a you look scummy, and that is a good excuse scum uses when, they know their pplay style has changed or when they know they cannot play the same as they did when town.

I know my style has changed, but I can't help it. I just don't see much value in questioning people over random observations or feelings anymore. Power roles exist for a reason. I was on the fence last game regarding this debate, but now I've made up my mind.

Imagine I was the one who had said that. You'd be on my nuts even more than now.



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Linkzmax on 28 December 2016
Final-Fan said:
To be fair, I doubt that Mafia with no Godfather usually assume the existence of a cop when there is already a claimed psychic.

By claiming Day One, I mean either first post, which also increases the odds of being believed as scum fakeclaiming it run the risk of a counterclaim, or at least before there's enough pressure on anyone else to claim.



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Linkzmax on 28 December 2016
Stefl1504 said:
Linkzmax said:

Do you mean why did nobody ask why spurge was the kill?

I'm more concerned with how little is being said in general. I guess we have a lot celebrating Boxing Day.

Well, yeah, that plays into that whole thing too, but I remember getting scrutinised over me trying to divert the lynch...

As zero said, there was scrutiny over diverting away from your lynch(or Trucks') to miz's lynch. What's spurge have to do with it?



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Linkzmax on 28 December 2016
axumblade said:
Stefl + Mr. P - I feel this story is too elaborate to completely create from scratch. But then again, we've seen this happen a lot. Last game, theprof's half truth helped him stay alive for one more night and yesterday Miz, lied about being a town role just to be another town role. It is strange that Mr. P seemed to have gotten his role mixed up pretty easily though. For now, I'll give this the benefit of a doubt but it is sort of up in the air as for what theprof has to say when he reemerges.

I am more inclined to believe Stefl over Mr. P if it came down to it though. Mr. P's ability for some reason sounds a little bit spurgelike if I remember the details correctly. Why would there be both a mailman that sends out letters?
Also, am I reading this wrong or does the interceptor even say that it is a mafia role on the epicmafia page?
https://epicmafia.com/role/162

I brought up that role as a possible slip by Mr.P, but he claimed Journalist. If that's his actual role then Stefl is also scum to explain the so called messages, and a blocked/docced kill happened.(Either his kill or the regular kill and Mr.P actually visited zero or zero is also scum) Too much of a stretch I think.

See my latest post on their connection. It's very likely that they're on the same team, whichever that may be.



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Linkzmax on 28 December 2016
NoCtiS_NoX said:
axumblade said:

This seems a bit too convenient of a role claim. Then again, there have been a lot of convenient role claims.

As I have mentioned lynch me then. I will flip town. If you want I can post my whole PM so I will be modkilled?

Getting modkilled is not some tool to attempt to gain an advantage. I'm ashamed of that state of VGC Mafia that nobody, regardless of how I feel about their alignment, pointed this out sooner. Then again barely anyone has posted in the last day, which has been a problem in games lately as well.

NoCtiS_NoX said:
Linkzmax said:

Mafia usually assume there is a cop already, even if they don't have a Godfather. Claiming Day one means a cop won't waste a scan on you. Now , since that may have actually happened we are in the exact same boat of choosing to believe your role or not, as if you had claimed yesterDay. Not sure where the idea of a miller claiming after a cop claim to give them more credibility comes from, but claiming beforehand would do the same.

I understand that. It means I can vouch for him. I think we have a different view from that one. Also, if they can lynch me then it gives more credibilty with his claimed that's what I am thinking. 

I am saying that if you claimed yesterDay it would give just as much credibility to an eventual cop claim. Claiming after there's a softclaim that you were scanned is shady, as people are noting. Your willingness to be lynched to prove Blade appears townish, but I've seen it done by scum before as I'm sure you have as well. If you are lynched and indeed flip town, then yes Blade is about as confirmed town as is possible without a flip.



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Linkzmax on 28 December 2016
BladeSymphony said:

Yeah, I don't know why you guys are currently going for the ruse offense, I'm just very weary of lynching him currently. It could very well be a ruse on his part. It just makes sense that certain actions have caused me to make a misstep on Night 1, and making quick assumptions can lead to mislynches.

Noctis and Stefl are still high on my potential scum meter. I don't know whether to trust Noctis or not, his claim is rather convenient, and Stefl's claim heavily counters my various softclaims.

I think you just pulled a 180 on where you stand after my post. Care to explain?



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Linkzmax on 28 December 2016
TruckOSaurus said:

How caught up are you?



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Stefl1504 on 28 December 2016
TruckOSaurus said:
Stefl1504 said:

I believe Mr. P isn't aware that he peeked into my PM. The double vote enabler is the town role that targeted me.

So you would be the one with two votes and Mr. P would have seen that message (and thought it meant he had the double vote?) and also your message that you got no info? (Sorry if this was cleared up in later posts but I prefer commenting as a read).

Yes, Mr. P cleared that up a few posts after mine I think.



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Mr.Playstation on 28 December 2016
Stefl1504 said:
TruckOSaurus said:

So you would be the one with two votes and Mr. P would have seen that message (and thought it meant he had the double vote?) and also your message that you got no info? (Sorry if this was cleared up in later posts but I prefer commenting as a read).

Yes, Mr. P cleared that up a few posts after mine I think.

Yeah the message was in this format

"Bla bladdy bla bla

   Bla bla bal bla"

And my brain thought that there was a " after the first paragraph and the second one was referring to me.



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TruckOSaurus on 28 December 2016

 

Linkzmax said:
TruckOSaurus said:

How caught up are you?

I'm still have page 22 and 23 to read so I'm guessing around 65 posts.

zero129 said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Here's miz's post:

Imagine I was the one who had said that. You'd be on my nuts even more than now.

So tell me this.

What do you think of Nocs role claim?. Also what do you think of blades claim?. Going by what blade says it counter claims stefl's role.

So wouldnt that mean one of them would have to be lying?.

Its kinda like we have Mr.P+Stefl and Nocs+Blades all confirming each other. Except blades says stefl's role counter claims his.

I haven't quite got to their claims yet but I promise to give my thoughts when I get to it which will probably be tonight.



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